How Nigeria, South Africa moved to swap Synagogue collapse victims’ bodies for arms

While Nigerians wait for closure on the $15 million arms money seized by South African prosecutors, authorities in the two countries appear to have agreed on an unholy barter to exchange bodies of South Africans who died in the Synagogue Church collapse in Nigeria, for South African-made arms needed by Nigeria to fight Boko Haram, The Mail and Guardian, one of South Africa’s most respected newspapers, has reported.

South Africa confiscated the money from arms brokers who travelled there to procure arms for the Nigerian military.

Mail and Guardian said it saw two letters written by Jeff Radebe, the South African special envoy in charge of facilitating the repatriation of the bodies, to JP “Torie” Pretorius, of the Directorate for Priority Crime Investigations, also known as the Hawks, and Dumisani Dladla, head of South African National Conventional Arms Control Committee, NCACC, secretariat, seeking to assist the Nigerian government to get the weapons, despite two court orders freezing the money and continued probe into the dubious deals by investigators.

On November 16, with the supervision of Mr. Radebe, 74 bodies were repatriated to South Africa following the September collapse of the Synagogue Church in Lagos, Nigeria.

Majority of the dead were South Africans who visited the church hoping to receive miracles from the founder, T. B. Joshua.

Many in South Africa hailed Mr. Radebe as a hero for being able to secure the release of the bodies.

But the news that he might have entered into a sinister swap agreement with Nigerian officials to accelerate the return of the bodies has cast a pall over that heroic persona.

The South African government has dismissed the Mail and Guardian’s account as an attempt to “discredit the collaborative efforts of the South African and Nigerian governments to repatriate the bodies of South Africans that died in Nigeria”.

But the paper, in a follow-up report, said it stood by its findings, as they were backed by documents and confirmations from government officials.

“It includes correspondence from Minister Radebe to the Hawks and internal emails from senior government officials,” Mail and Guardian editor, Angela Quintal, said. “The email trail clearly shows that these officials were discussing the minister’s request that the investigation be halted and that they were concerned about this.”

In the letters Mail and Guardian quoted, Mr. Radebe, who is also the Chairman of NCACC and a minister in the South African presidency, tried hard to whitewash the deals as legitimate.

“(It) was, in fact, a legitimate requirement from the government of Nigeria,” he was quoted to have written. “Although the required administrative processes were not adhered to at the time, the government of South Africa deems it a bona fide error.”

He told Mr. Dladla to “laise” with Mr. Pretorius to “obtain all relevant information in order to assist the parties involved to apply for the necessary authorisations in compliance with the National Conventional Arms Control Amendment Act (no 73 of 2008);” adding that “Upon receipt of the required permit applications, the national conventional arms control committee will favourably consider ex-post facto approval thereof.”

Though Mr. Radebe claimed that the attempt to help Nigeria clean up the arms deal was collectively agreed at an NCACC meeting, other members of the committee are distancing themselves from the agreement.

Also, while he claimed, through his spokesperson, that the committee agreed to help Nigeria legitimise the deals at its October 30 meeting, the letter seen by Mail and Guardian was dated October 6, three weeks before the meeting was held, the newspaper said.

Mr. Radebe also said that the repatriation of the bodies lay under the exclusive jurisdiction of the Lagos State government and “had no relation to the arms matter.”

He said he drafted the letters to Hawks and the directorate for conventional arms control “after consultation with the Federal Republic of Nigeria”.

Mail and Guardian quoted a cabinet minister, who is also a member of the arms committee, as saying that Mr. Radebe singlehandedly wrote the letter without consulting other committee members. He said Mr. Radebe merely sought their approval after the letter had been delivered.

“Jeff cut this deal all by himself. He wanted to claim credit for cracking this matter [securing the return of bodies,” said the government official. “His colleagues who serve on the arms committee are distancing themselves from the whole thing. They are refusing to back him on this one. If we allow Nigeria to get away with this, it means any country can come and do the same.”

Mr. Radebe appeared to be completely isolated on the matter as prosecutors said they are not relenting in their effort at getting to the bottom of the matter.

Paul Ramaloko, a captain with the Hawks said his organisation is forging ahead with its investigation and that he knew nothing about the attempt of Mr. Radebe to withdraw the charges.

Mail and Guardian said Mr. Radebe’s letters are being discussed within the country’s diplomatic circles with officials wondering what to do with it.

An email the newspaper claimed it saw read: “What concerns the NCAI [National Arms Control Inspectorate] about this case is that there are no documents … end-user certificate, or otherwise … from the Nigerian government that they had ordered the arms and ammunition. Thus far, there is no proof that has been provided that the Nigerian government ordered these goods or is in any way involved in this deal.”

The officials who wrote the email added that, having bought arms from South Africa before, “the responsible officials in that country understand the administrative and legal process that South Africa requires”.

Nigeria’s National Security Adviser, Sambo Dasuki, could not be reached for comments. His spokesperson, Adebisi Adekunle, could not also be contacted as calls to his telephone were unsuccessful.

A spokesperson to President Goodluck Jonathan, Reuben Abati, did not also respond to calls to his phones.


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  • endingNaija

    While waiting for the official response of the Nigerian government, we can get the position of President Jonathan from his online spokespersons-Reno Wendel Omokri/BlackieUmukoro/Otlle/Tawandah/the truth/Gideon Orkar/Oleku/Mani_kay/mptikwelu/deri/Temmie etc over to you. Can you please tell us what you people discussed and how you discussed this matter in Aso Rock? Let President Jonathan’s e-rats rush in!

    • the truth

      please remove me from that list. It is fraudulent and repugnant that in your quest for character assassination you have devised this illegal means to tangle me in your malicious quest for smear. It is rather unfortunate that instead of putting all hands on deck for the growth of our country and to strive to consolidate on the positive gains of this administration you have decided to tow this path. This report is another hoodwinked scheme to tarnish the image of our great country. And it is pertinent that i let the world know that i would always tow the path of the truth and as such neutral to the core.

      • endingNaija

        But you have just confirmed that you are part of the list. What else can we deduce from your post? It seems that the post is written from the 2015 campaign office of President Jonathan. I said let President Jonathan’s e-rat rush in. And you RUSHED in! Me I just talk the truth jeje and some people dey angry! the truth na Reno Blackie Umokri!

      • clairvoyance

        When u clueless bosss is embarrassed u call for unity where u not the same turutu that was insulting other people when premium times revealed the names of those fall guys from Austria as the Nigerians that boarded oleshejofor jet.

  • TAWANDA INCOMMUNICADO

    This insinuation is a speculation,there is no basis whatsoever for any rational person to believe that Nigeria swapped or ever intended to swap the fallen South Africans for withheld assets in South Africa. This report is another cynical attempt to create bad blood with our South African brethren by the APC Jihadists who mask around as an opposition party.
    The procurement of arms was legitimate and was part of the effort aimed at defeating the Sambisa outfit sponsored by the extremists who mask around as an opposition party. The effort is presently paying off because the military is inflicting damage on their boys in the forests of the NE and they are just not happy about this !!

    • endingNaija

      Tawanda, so really you are a spokeperson of President Jonathan. Just thinking. Well okay, so violating money transaction laws that cap the raw amount /raw cash that can leave a country’s border(Nigeria) and arrive another country’s border (South Africa) (according to you) for “the procurement of arms was legitimate…” Hm! Just as President Jonathan said in his Motto and signature tune “Stealing is No Corruption”-President Jonathan. Violating money trafficking laws of Nigeria and South Africa is legitimate-Tawanda on behalf of President Jonathan of Aso Rock, Nigeria! Okay o!

      • TAWANDA INCOMMUNICADO

        I speak for myself !! Nigeria has a sovereign right to defend her territory and to procure weapons is well in line with the rights invested on the Nigerian government, In the international arms market,a lot of things happen and all countries of the world are entitled to self defence……..go and hang if you think we should not procure arms to defeat Islamic terrorists whose plan it is to change our way of life !!

        • Aminu

          Tawanda it is too late for you and your Oga King Nebu at Aso Villa to convinced us that frozen fund was actually for a legitimate business transaction in South Africa. at most you can only inform us that the money is meant for procuring arms for your PDP terror wing at Sambisa aka BokoHaram this is because there was no end user certificate for the purchase.

          • TAWANDA INCOMMUNICADO

            Aminu,
            So Muslims are so daft that they take instructions from an infidel Christian to kill fellow Muslims ? You are disrespecting the intelligence of Muslims………The Sambisa military wing is the sole property of the APC Islamist party !!

          • Kamal Kamoru

            T.K.O(Technical Knockout)!!!!!!!!!!
            The has been knocked out cold!
            You have made their folly visible to themselves.
            Good job mate!

        • endingNaija

          Procuring arms IS DIFFERENT FROM MODE OF PAYMENT FOR THAT PROCUREMENT. I am sure your problem is a moral problem and NOT a problem of understanding English language. And that moral problem worsens your case and that of your paymaster King Goodluck Jonathan Nebuchadnezzer of the 21st century!

          • TAWANDA INCOMMUNICADO

            TO HELL WITH MODE OF PAYMENT !! We are at war and we are gonna get the weapons we need.

          • endingNaija

            Thank you for agreeing that you ran yourself into ditches and hopeless and horrible contradictions. But before you run away I will quite you “We are at war and we are gonna get the weapons we need.

            …” Deduction: President Jonathan and his crew are at war and are gonna get the weapons they need ILLEGALLY, CRIMINALLY, SECRETLY VIOLATING LAWS, AND THEREAFTER (i) LAUNDER ASPECT OF THE MONEY BECAUSE THE RAW CASH DID NOT LEAVE NIGERIA LEGALLY AND NEVER ARRIVED SOUTH AFRICA LEGALLY IN THE FIRST INSTANCE-so they can do anything with the amount, (II) BUY 10 AMMUNITIONS, REPORT FIVE OFFICIALLY TO THE GOVT, AND PASS THE REMAINING FIVE TO TERRORISTS-both in the Niger Delta and their tools in “Boko Haram”!!! See what President Jonathan and his govt planned (before they were caught) by using the private jet of his friend Mr. Ayo Oritsejafor of CAN to ferry the money illegally out of public and legal sight out of Nigeria?

    • umolu

      I think Nigeria has many decent ways of dealing with South Africa over this arms money than this so called swap.

  • Innocent

    Oil for Guns, Cash for Guns, Body for Guns. Interesting.

  • MrFesh+Ifebuche+Paschal

    What the copier of this news from Mail & Guardian will not tell you is that on the same news issue, the South African official, Radebe, says that the arms deal was legitimate only that paperwork was wrong at the time of the confiscation. Let me paste some part of it here “In his letters, Radebe, the chairperson of the arms control committee, said it had come to the committee’s attention that the failed attempt on September 5 to pay an arms dealer in South Africa “was, in fact, a legitimate requirement from the government of Nigeria”.

    “Although the required administrative processes were not adhered to at the time, the government of South Africa deems it a bona fide error,” Radebe said in his letters to Dladla and Pretorius.”

    If you are interested in the full news article, find it here:
    mg dot co dot za/article/2014-11-27-did-radebe-barter-arms-for-bodies

    • endingNaija

      Reno Omokri na Mr. Fesh + Ifebuche + Paschal. Listen , this is it. (1)
      ” legitimate requirement from the govt of Nigeria” means Nigeria and
      indeed any country has legitimacy to buy arms. No one has denied that
      if that was the original intention! but (2) violating the money
      trafficking laws of Nigeria and South Africa to pay for arms IS
      DIFFERENT FROM THE LEGITIMACY OF THE REQUEST BY A COUNTRY (NIGERIA) TO
      BUY ARMS. You hear? (1) Requesting to buy arms IS DIFFERENT FROM (2)
      USING ILLEGAL AND CRIMINAL MEANS TO PAY as President Jonathan used
      Pastor Oritsejafor’s private jet to do? We know that MUDDLING the issue
      is the past time of President Jonathan’s campaigners. But you will be
      countered by the simple truth of foreign business transaction which
      President Jonathan’s govt VIOLATED in the most criminal manner.

      • MrFesh+Ifebuche+Paschal

        help yourself. do some research. don’t wait to be fed by Liar or sahara deporters. Open your eyes.

        • endingNaija

          This is what the research shows. (i) A request(which is legitimate) is different from (ii) MODE OF PAYING(which is illegitimate and criminal in President Jonathan’s illegal cash for arms case now because INTENDED MODE OF PAYING violated the money trafficking laws of Nigeria and South Africa) FOR THE REQUEST. Simple understanding of the English language shows that there is a difference between the two. That is what research and simple English grammar show!

          • MrFesh+Ifebuche+Paschal

            Thanks for making it clearer.

            Now let’s analyse your analysis.

            From your analysis the only issues was MODE OF PAYMENT. This means the deal was LEGAL. Why will it then be strange that this would be corrected and the world continues spinning normal without you guys who allow others to think for you disturbing the peace?

          • endingNaija

            A LEGAL DEAL is a COMPLETED ACT. A LEGAL DEAL is a COMPLETED transaction. A COMPLETED transaction is PAID for. This one whereby President Jonathan used the private jet of his Pastor friend-Pastor Ayo Oristejafor of CAN to criminally and illegally transport money in violation of Nigerian and South Afircan law WAS NOT COMPLETE! It was and is INCOMPLETE! So? Not a legal deal until completed and SIGNED! If something is completed and SIGNED that is when is it LEGAL DEAL. In this case where is President Jonathan govt’s criminal act COMPLETED AND SIGNED? Nowhere. So? It remains a criminal and illegal act! Stop collapsing from one messy contradiction into the other. Be humble for once -even if you have ALL THE OIL money in the world- and LEARN the civilised manner. Oil money no be everything my broda!

          • MrFesh+Ifebuche+Paschal

            I’m sure you haven’t heard about TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
            It’s really funny how you keep bringing in the owner of the jet. Shows you have a really small mind. Is that ILLEGAL too? I mean hiring transport?

            Please don’t kill yourself over it.

          • endingNaija

            LEGAL TERMS AND CONDITIONS mean exactly what it is says -LEGAL. Nigeria and South Africa have Money trafficking LAWS. And President Jonathan’s govt use of Pastor Oristejafor private jet to traffick money to South Africa from Nigeria CONTRAVENED the two countries’ money trafficking laws. And such laws are foundation of any nation’s business practice. O ya move into the next absurdity and contradiction!

          • MrFesh+Ifebuche+Paschal

          • absam777

            Hey man, do you read your own words before posting for others to read it? The quality of advise and reasoning in your Aso Rock is so low that no one can say you guys are intelligent enough for the salary you earn. What a country!

          • MrFesh+Ifebuche+Paschal

            My aso rock? I wish it was mine sha.

        • George

          God bless you brother. SAHARA REPORTERS IS HARAM

      • the truth

        sometimes i enjoin you to do some fact searching 3 minutes research before running to conclusions. Don’t be deceived, elections are not won on apc times.

        • endingNaija

          the “truth” I responded to MrFesh +Ifebuche +Paschal, and you responded on his behalf saying exactly what he said in another post. So are the truth and Mr.Fesh the same ? Oh sorry! I forgot that “Pastor” Reno Wendel Omokri coordinates all these names. Sorry I catch ya!

          • olu_kay

            Wendell Slim aka Reno Omokri is a shifty one hahahaaha

  • the truth

    This may be another scheme to discredit Nigeria. We will overcome all distractions. Let us continue with our match to sustainability and victory over boko haram. This is no time for name calling but a time for sober reflection. We would overcome our adversaries.

    • Edward

      Match or march? You sent that post hurriedly from President Jonatha’s Aso Rock!

      • the truth

        At least i am in aso rock, keep dreaming. I don’t know how you people reason. So if for once i do not buy this story i am a pro jonathan supporter, but if i do buy it i am a saint. My brother according to tuface “you no holy pass”. Boy grow up

        • Edward

          I am talking about your mix up of “match” for MARCH. And I said that happened because you posted your write up hurriedly from Aso Rock. That is true now the truth!

          • Tanimu

            Mehn, nawa for APC e-rats like yurself and ‘endingnaija’ o! So if he uses a wrong word for another, he automatically resides on aso rock?? What above the countless errors made by obviously pro APC minions? Do they reside in the villa too???
            Wow! You have a s*xy ‘F’ for reasoning!
            Damn too childish and petty!

          • Edward

            Hm hm hm hm caught napping and pants down and looking for ways to dodge!!! I laugh yakata for my parlour dey watch television! Make I take “pigeon” (PIDGIN PLEASE) English nak your head!!!

            Next time watch your grammar. Do not rush to defend King Jona Nebu while messing up your grammar! Learn boy!

  • Rommel

    Nigeria,always involved in shady deals,a nation where a president deals with black market instead of the legitimate one

  • zacchaeus Akinleye

    Incompetence and corruption are the order of the day in this clueless administration on its way out.

    • Alcindo Satori

      I cannot remember the last time I heard/read the name zacchaeus. That says it all about you!

      • zacchaeus Akinleye

        The reason you don’t remember is because I am not your hell-hole neighbor. And I blog for smart readers!

  • warry

    This matter is being rehearsed everyday. Let the south Africans complete their findings. There is nothing any Nigerian official will say that will be acceptable to some of us. We are even questioning the south Africans when they say something different from what we want to hear.

  • FortB

    I dey laugh. So it is no longer money laundry that went wrong, or CAN president, Oritshejafor using his aircraft to attempt buying arms for boko haram? Some of us Nigerians are our own greatest enemies. Now that the facts are gradually coming out, some people instead of burying their heads in shame will still look for ways to insult their government.

    • Edward

      Reno Wendell Omokri, have exhausted the value of your previous online names because your cover is blown you will invent new set of names to use and coordinate. You will not be allowed you to muddle issues. This story is (i) consistent with money laundry because President Jonathan and his govt VIOLATED Nigerian and South African money trafficking laws by carrying RAW cash over and above what the laws require in the private jet of his “Pastor” friend-Ayo Oristejafor, (ii) consistent with the use of Oritsejafor’s plane to buy arms illegally. When your act is secretive, criminal and illegal as the use of the Private jet of Ayo Oritsejafor is, you MUST be scrutinized, (iii) consistent with the legitimate questions which were asked about the propriety in the use of the private jet of a Pastor friend and counselor of President Jonathan to buy arms-Is “Pastor” Oritsejafor a business man? Answer. Show your readers how this story contradict these three things I outlined or shut up!

      • Alcindo Satori

        Listen to yourself! Carrying raw cash to purchase weapons in order to save your country from being overrun by terrorists is what you’re postulating against? These Yorubas never cease to amaze me.

        • Edward

          Shut up! What does the law say? We are not in stone age where you carry cowrie shells around and tie them around your waist to the ,market to buy things!. I say shut up because you know Goodluck Jonathan’s govt committed grievous crime and illegality in order to hide something in this dubious cash for arms crime. Again shut up. Take up the argument rationally if you can! If you cannot take up the argument at rational level then keep shut!

          • Alcindo Satori

            How about you shut your ugly ass up if you cannot articulate what the grievous crime is! And how about your moronic facing telling which of the advanced nations on this planet that don’t get involved in such clandestine ops!! What do you know about argument?! Freaking mongrel pup! What do you even know about cowrie shells?! And how can a human in this contemporary world use cowrie shells and stone age in the same breath?! Talk about ignorance magnified!!!

          • Edward

            Keep that Ogogoro mouth shut! In the 21st century when you carry RAW CASH OF 15 MILLION DOLLARS inside plane and you claim to be transacting business then you are likened to carrying cowrie shells around to buy and sell as it you are in stone age 4th century where you strike two stones against one another to make fire! In the 21st century you cannot be carrying $1000, $2,000 RAW CASH around and people will not think about your babarism and primitivity. This is the ugly primitive picture President Jonathan gave us Nigerians by TRANSPORTING $15 MILLION in RAW CASH inside the private jet of his friend -Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor. You better not let the world continue to read this because it is a shame on President Jonathan and his govt!!!

          • bala Bakut

            Everyone with a view contrary to yours has an ‘ogogoro mouth’. Some of us just visit this site and other good ones like Sahara occasionally to know what’s happening back home, but the comments I read from some of you is discouraging. Learn to respect others views my brother. No need getting so uncivil. It doesn’t speak well of you as a person.

          • Alcindo Satori

            Good point. His (Edward) comments shouldn’t discourage you at all. No responsible individual worth his salt would use the “ogogoro” terminology as part of his diction. Just goes to show his level of illiteracy.

          • Edward

            Can you use your Ogogoro mouth to tell readers what you meant when you used the words “ugly ass” in an open platform like this? It will be helpful. You get what you give! It is the law of Kharma!

          • Edward

            You may be new on this platform or the issue is that you come occasionally as you said. So you miss something. tell me what “antiquated” means as used by Alcindo satori. Tell me what it means when Goodluck Jonathan team abuse Nigerians from other ethnic groups-To them, the Northerners are “lazy”, the Yorubas have been “conquered” etc. Goodluck Jonathan’s team are the most disrespectful . They not only abuse, they tell you it is “OUR SWEET OIL” the rest have nothing. Please read posts by Alcindo satori /oleku/otile/Tawanda/mani_kay/mpitikwelu/Gideon Orkar/ Biafra/Igbo kwenu/ and come back to tell me what you read. And mind you all these names are centrally coordinated by President Goodluck Jonathan New Media adviser-Mr. Reno Omokri and others. When Goodluck Jonathan team get it back in their coins they shout. No apologies bala bakut. They will be CHECKMATED IN THEIR OWN COINS. Whoever does not respect others does not deserve respect.

          • Edward

            In talking about “respect” please tell me the meaning of “ugly ass” as used by you /alcind satori in one of your posts. It will be helpful.

          • Alcindo Satori

            …and what a revelation you are! Firstly, understand what it means to mention cowrie shells next to stone age, and then wonder how antiquated you are. Then maybe, just maybe, you would understand what century you live in/belong to. And by the way, you SHALL have GEJ another 4 years! Love it or not.

          • Edward

            Reno Omokri I thought you wrote thru

            one Bala baku to talk about decency!!! Please tell “bala bakut” the meaning of ugly ass!!! and how that relates to respect for others!!! Anyway(s) Reno Omokri na Bal bakut na alcindo satori -same thing!!!

          • Frank

            O boy why you dey vex like dis?? It’s obvious you are ‘endingnaija’. Glad you know u are beginning to sound like a broken record..and have decided to use an alias! Little wonder u accuse others of doing the same. You are jst speaking from the abundance of your dark heart.
            Grow up bro..face issues and talk facts nd figures..not pettiness

          • Edward

            Frank na Reno Omokri. use new name you will be caught. How much for this post now?

        • segun

          Which country? Did the Ijaw president-Goodluck Jonathan run Nigeria as a united country? Since Goodluck Jonathan became president the sing song has been “our oil”, “the oil” in my backyard, history and evolution of the country do not matter, others do not matter, what matter is ME-Niger Delta/Ijaw,/South South because it is the oil in my backyard. If that is the case “broda” Alcindo Satori, then where is the country? Why does the talk about country suddenly become interesting to you? Is your Ijaw President Goodluck Jonathan trying to look “nationalistic” and “presidential” because of 2015 elections.? Why appear “patriotic” now when all the talk before now is about OUR OIL IN OUR BACKYARD? Stop your hyporcrisy. It is too too too too late-you are Ijaw tribalists to the core-you President Jonathan people -Ijaws- and Niger Delta people broke the unity bridge, you cannot hide anymore.

          • Gideon Orkar

            Ewedu brain

          • segun

            Ogbono head and mind!

      • FortB

        You are just being dis-ingineous in your post. For your information, I do not know anyone by the name Reno or whatever that you seem to be associating me with. I am a private security professional if you must know. Go learn about how governments buy arms in the black market when need be, and just maybe, you will start changing your I’ll informed perception. But that will be only if you are able to keep aside stereotypical biases that is obviously eating you up.

        • Edward

          You are Reno Wendell Slim Omokri-the adviser to President Jonathan on New Media. Please do not beat around the creek and bush, we know you!

          • FortB

            Hahahaha, how I wish. At least pepper for don rest for my side be that.

          • Edward

            You do not need to wish. You are-full stop!

          • FortB

            What did this person do to pass you off so much?

          • Gideon Orkar

            Ignore the mumu

          • Makut Maikori

            Nothing probably. It’s an obsession. He is obviously @ endingnaija. It has become apparent to the clown that he’s repetitive sing song of renaming everyone reno omokri is very childish and petty.
            Ignore the juvenile delinquent.

          • Makut Maikori

            Boy, you are really obsessed with this reno guy. This your childishness nawa o! Everyone who doesn’t align with your view is reno?? Hmm.
            You had better revert to your more known name of endingnaija. Don’t be ashamed. We all know you are a broken record. It’s practically impossible for anyone else to reason the way you do.

          • Edward

            Deal with the issue Reno Omokri na Makut Maikori. Invent new names you will be caught!!!

        • Edward

          Gosh! Why will any LEGITIMATE govt buy arms in THE BLACK MARKET? Oh my God! You just admitted that President Goodluck Jonathan govt is a black market government!!! And the last time I checked the notion of “black marketeering” has a ring of criminality and illegality to it! It is disturbing for you to defend a Nigerian govt on the criterion of “black market”. It is chilling to read that President Jonathan’s govt is a black market govt. It is really chilling. This open admission which is more of a honest betrayal of President Jonathan’s stream of consciousness, a honest betrayal of the mode of governance in Goodluck Jonathan’s Aso Rock as a black market government is scary, it send a chill down my spine. I had thought my govt -Nigerian govt-is an open transparent govt. I did not the what we have is a black market govt under President Jonathan. Anyway(s), thanks for betraying before the public the true immoral colour of President Jonathan’ govt. Thanks a lot!

          • FortB

            You are only displaying your crass ignorance of how the real world function. Nigeria is not the first government nor will it be the last to seek to buy urgently needed arms from the blackmarket. Because of your stereotypical hatred for the government you cannot be bothered to even educate yourself on this topic. You are a lost case. Stick to your ignorance and continue to wallow in it. That’s your funeral

          • TAWANDA INCOMMUNICADO

            More weapons and intelligence equipment exchange hands through unconventional means and governments reserve the right to hide away what the have because when any adversary knows your capabilities,it is a security minus !!

          • Edward

            In high school we learned one word which describes unclean thought rendered in unclean manner. That word is called CASUISTRY. Liars and dubious people often resort to CASUISTRY, they begin to change words when they are caught lying! In just two posts you moved from “Black Market” to “unconventional” ! I am expecting your next invention when we catch you and your govt-President Jonathan- pants down. From your posts under different names you have confirmed the following – President Jonathan’s government is a BLACK MARKET GOVERNMENT-i.e. criminal and illegal! President Jonathan’s government engages in hide and seek with the world because its hands are not clean, therefore it cannot use CONVENTIONAL MEANS TO TRADE, IT HAS TO USE UNCONVENTIONAL MEANS because of its corrupt and bad character. With this IN YOUR OWN WORDS- I rest my case while I wait for your next casuistry-lies! You can also post it in a different name, do not worry I will know!

          • TAWANDA INCOMMUNICADO

            “Unconventional” DOES NOT by any means reflect “illegitimacy”!

          • Edward

            Your way-okay? Take these. They are dictionary meanings INDEPENDENT of you and I.
            Conventonal-based on what is generally done, believed or accepted.-Derivative-when something is not generally accepted or done(e.g? List instances) it is UNCONVENTIONAL.
            Un-conventional-not based on what is generally done, believed, or accepted.-e.g. black market, money trafficking, racketeering, back door approach, not being upfront, corrupt because it is back door, criminal because it is not accepted, deviant behavior, rape, illegal because society does not accept it and society does not want us to do it. You can load it with examples. But…
            So you have used an ominibus term and that opens you up to manipulate it as King Nebu of Aso Rock and his team often do. Small boy, an omnibus term is open ended. Dubious people and casuists like members of King Goodluck Jonathan Nebuchadezzar use ominibus terms to DODGE when they have been caught and have exhausted their wits. But we will follow you and your dubious King Goodluck Jonathan Nebuchadnezzar anywhere you take this conversation to. When a sovereign country -Nigeria-VIOLATES its own laws and the laws of other countries OPENLY and you deploy the ominibus term (after the fact) to cover Nigeria’s criminality under Goodluck Jonathan, then we as a country have been brought completely on our knees in moral terms. You commit crime and evil and you say “Oh I commit evil because I want to use “un-conventional” means to get what I want…”!!! ole ole ole ole thief thief thief That is the only word to describe your casuistry-period. Bring up the next defense on behalf of King Jona Nebu of Aso Rock, Abuja Nigeria. You will be answered properly.

          • TAWANDA INCOMMUNICADO

            Your English tutorials cannot change an iota of the realities of the international arms market !!
            …..And you know what ? Nigeria will procure whatever it takes to protect herself from the insurgence of Boko-haram. This is our sovereign right !!

          • Edward

            UUUUUUnnnnnnnCCCCCCCooooooNNNNNvvvvveeennnnnttttiiiiioooonnnnnaaallll Black Market president Goodluck Jonathan Nebuchadnezzar!!! next time as one of your team said do “research” on words and terms before you talk!

        • TAWANDA INCOMMUNICADO

          They are absolutely uninformed about the entire international arms market,it is a very unconventional set-up when it comes to weapons ,they think it’s like going to buy tomatoes at Oshodi !

  • the truth

    If boko haram strikes, u will see online trots line up to rain abuses on the govt and jonathan, they try to buy arms to fight boko haram since our allies have refused to sell us arms and this same people still rain abuses. Wetin una want my people?

  • Okey

    The same Premium Times that led in the belief of “Money stolen by Jonathan and stashed away in South Africa” is now informing us, without any modicum of apology, that truly, the transaction is for arms purchase. What a country of self-destructs !

    • endingNaija

      Okey, please complete your words “… the truly the transaction is for arms purchase…” The issues are (i) Transparency in moving cash-President Jonathan’s government VIOLATED that, (ii) respecting the money trafficking laws of Nigeria and South Africa-the use by President Jonathan’s government of his friend’s private jet (Ayo Oritsejafor) to ferry RAW CASH as if we are in the village across borders VIOLATED the laws of bot nations. Based on these two, the question is: what was President Jonathan hiding by using his friend’s private jet to VIOLATE the laws of his own country and those of South Africa? Please tell the readers. If you cannot then you must apoligise to use for trying to muddle the issue through your pretence that you do not know that when you DO NOT DISCLOSE what you carry at the borders/airport as President Jonathan’s govt did not do in this case then you have created the condition for lack of accountability and LOOTING-which is the signature tune of Prersident Jonathan’s govt.

      • McAlfred Uta

        You may be right on moving cash illegally across borders between RSA and Nigeria. But have you thought about the angle of Dollar being the major channel for international transaction worldwide and that Nigeria couldn’t have transacted legitimately to get these arms given the US embargo on arms supply to Nigeria. Only one option would have been possible – Russia. But that can only be done through oil for arms swap. However, Russia has tons of oil and may never need Nigeria’s oil. Sometimes, most Governments undertake underground deals to protect her citizens. Lets leave security matters to the NSA and his colleagues in charge of security.

        • endingNaija

          McAlfred Uta, suppose EVERYTHING you said here is true (I do not think they are true, actually they are false because if one country X does not sell arms to Nigeria it does not follow that other countries Y, Z, T e.g. South Africa will not sell. If the government of President Jonathan is right that it was trying to do a legitimate arms business in this case, then the fact that President Jonathan’s govt is trying to buy arms from other sources disprove your point about American arms universal embargo if there was one. And if you are buying from South Africa why not transfer the money LEGALY ). Based on this preliminary supposition, I have some questions for you. In the cash for alleged arms deal (i) Why did Nigeria Nigeria VIOLATE her own laws on money trafficking? (ii) After President Jonathan VIOLATED Nigerian Laws by using the private jet of his Pastor friend -Ayo Oritsejafor of Christian Association of Nigeria to VIOLATE these laws , what moral and legal basis does President Jonathan’s govt have anymore to prosecute money traffickers? Is this moral weakness and criminal practices by President Jonathan’s govt the reason why Corruption is the definition of President Jonathan’s govt? (iii) Why did Nigeria VIOLATE South African laws on money trafficking? (iv) After VIOLATING South African laws, why does Nigeria not want the law to take its course? What does Nigeria expect after President Jonathan’s govt violated South African laws? (v) Why did President Jonathan’s govt use an Israeli citizen-Mr. Eyal Mesika in this shady “black market” business? (v) What is the role of this foreigner? (vi) How can a foreigner such as an Israeli citizen protect our -Nigeria’s-SOVEREIGN interests? (vii) Will Israel do the same-i.e use a Nigerian to buy arms for Israel? Please answer these questions first and we will take things from there.Thanks.

      • Shehu Garba

        Guy, we’re you hoping to supply the arms or what? Over a hundred replies on this issue! You dey try ooo!
        Don’t kill yourself o. Chai! Have you heard of heart attack?

        • endingNaija

          President Jonathan committed crime and a huge illegality by using the private jet of his Pastor friend Ayo Oritsejafor of Christian Association of Nigeria to ferry money illegally to South Africa. Sundery reasons have been adduced why he did this. But bottom line is that he committed a crime. President Jonathan’s online spokespersons and attack dogs coordinated by his New Media Adviser-Reno Wendell Omokri want to whitewash and cover up thru all kinds of arguments to muddle the issue. If they are not exposed they will get away with this daylight murder. If they stop their criminal and dubious defense of a major crime against our collective interests, then I will stop. if they do not, I will expose their evil attempt to rationalise President Goodluck Jonathan criminal and illegal act in the $15m “arms” deal . You hear? Does this help you? Next?

      • Okey

        No, do not build a new fact to an old story. The issue was never presented as “national interest pursued in a non-transparent manner.” The narative then was “stolen money being stashed away for Jonathan caught in South Africa.” Because you lack the capacity for fairness and terribly suffer a debilitating unbalanced mind, you will refuse the current treatment of issue by the South African authorities and how they now classify it as presented by Premium Times . You are best left to continue in your chequered conspiracy theories.

        • endingNaija

          Yes, when President Jonathan -AGAINST NIGERIAN AND SOUTH AFRICAN MONEY TRAFFICKING LAWS AND INTERNATIONAL LAWS -used the private jet of his Pastor friend-Ayo Oritsejafor to do the following what do you call that? (i) Ferry $15m RAW CASH from Nigeria to South Africa, (ii) refused to disclose the ENTIRE money to Nigerian airport authorities at the point of DEPARTURE, (iii) refused to disclose the ENTIRE amount of money to South African aviation authorities at the point of entry until the plane and the traffickers were caught! (iv) gave arms purchase as an after thought to a crime already committed, (v) was trying to buy arms from a company that does not have requisite authority to sell, (vi) was trying to use dubious “diplomatic immunity” cunny cunny to arm twist the South African authorities, (vii) had a FOREIGNER, AN ISRAELI CITIZEN, on an arms transaction for Nigeria!!! I just laugh here as I responded to you. President Jonathan’s govt is using a FOREIGNER, an ISRAELI to buy arms for Nigeria!!! Haba!! To what low level abyss will Jonathan not drag us? Eh eh, I just yawn, I beg make I just go sleep. Please tell us what you will call all these. Make I sleep small!!! Our President, President Goodluck Jonathan LOST IT!

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