INTERVIEW: The Okonjo-Iweala who worked for me is different from the Okonjo-Iweala who worked for Jonathan – Obasanjo

Olusegun Obasanjo

Photo: Atom Lim
Olusegun Obasanjo Photo: Atom Lim

Nigeria’s former president, Olusegun Obasanjo, took some time off his busy schedule to speak to a PREMIUM TIMES team at his Abeokuta home about some of the issues he wrote about in his book, “My Watch”.

The retired army general – in between joking with his interviewers, and threatening to walk out of the room – spoke at length about the reasons behind some of the key decisions he took while in office, his relationship with some key political figures, and the Halliburton bribery scandal.

Below is excerpt of the first part of the interview.

PT: Thank you sir for granting us this opportunity to talk about your book. Some people say it is selling like hot cake, I don’t know if it is true but that’s what people say. How has it been? What has been the financial reward from there?

Obasanjo: The book was not written for financial reward. If it was written for financial reward, now that…what do you call him… Kashamu had done the stupid things he did, I would have sued him‎ for damages and I would have got damages. But that’s not what the book was written for. The book was written for my experience, my understanding, my knowledge, and what you may call wisdom as a result of all these, to put it for others to be able to learn or acquire knowledge. That’s one. Two, it was also written to set the record right. One of the things that people don’t know, people that I call arm chair presidents is that they don’t know what goes in before decisions are made or what the man making decisions, what leads him to making decisions.

Take for instance the decision on privatising all refineries. I explained that what I met were refineries that were not working, refineries that were given to an amateur for repairs, for maintenance, what they call turn around maintenance to the company of Emeka Offor – Chrome Group. Where has Emeka Offor maintained refineries before? Where has he? That’s what we met. So the refineries were not working. I called Shell. I said ‘come and help us, just run the refinery.’ Shell was frank with me.

It said that ‘we make our money from upstream, downstream is more of a service. Two, your refineries are small. Port Harcourt is 60,000 barrels a day. Refineries now go 300,000 barrels a day. Three, your refineries have not been maintained well. Four, we don’t want to go into the corruption that is entailed in all these’. I said ‘ok, come and help me run it’. They refused. Now when I then saw people who agreed to take 51 percent equity in two of the refineries; they did not promise to pay, they paid 750 million, I was dancing and I said ‘look, this is God sent.’ My successor came (and) they cancelled it and paid them the money back. Those refineries today – you won’t get them because they’ve become scrap.

PT: They recently said that they are working again…

Obasanjo: Who made them work? (laughs)

PT: You mentioned Emeka Offor. There were lots of stories about the refineries you met, how you handled it. But you never recovered anything from Emeka Offor.

Obasanjo: What can you recover? A man ‎who was paid upfront. He had people. He got some police…people were there. And like they have said to you now, look, if it works for a week, that’s all you get. And Emeka Offor, after I left he became friends with every government that has come. Now he’s not only into refinery and oil and all that, he’s now also in energy.

PT: Something came out of your book. You said that before you were elected, that the feeling and perception was that only a northerner ‎could be elected in Nigeria. How did you feel breaking that myth, because you called it a myth in your book?

Obasanjo: It’s a myth. It’s a myth that….well, before my election we have had, since independence, three or four elections. We had election in 1959 that was conducted by the British, NPC won. We were still in the days of parliamentary. We had election in 1964 that was conducted by ourselves. It was a coalition of NPC and NCNC but the head of the government was Tafawa Balewa. We had election again in 1979, Shagari won. We had again in 1983, again Shagari won. And then we had the June 12…

PT: (Cuts in) I was thinking that (1993) was when the myth was broken.

Obasanjo: Election which result has not been declared, you cannot talk of… It doesn’t matter what you may see but until the election result is formally declared, it could be anything.

PT: So you think that period was a very momentous period in Nigeria’s history?

Obasanjo: I think it was good for Nigeria. It was one of the great strides that Nigeria made. Just as I believe that Jonathan winning election in 2011 was also a great stride for us or 2015, now that the incumbent was defeated by the opposition. These are landmarks, or if you like, reference points in our advancement in democracy.

PT: In the Volume 2 of your book, you wrote extensively about the role God used you to play in enthroning Yar’Adua and Jonathan. You also admitted later – extensive analysis – how both leaders performed poorly. There are those who believe that you owe Nigerians an apology for leading them to enthrone non-performing leaders.

Obasanjo: (Cuts in) You are absolutely wrong Now you voted for them. I didn’t just take them and put them there. And they went through a process. Don’t you know that? Do you know or don’t you know that they went through a process? Do you know or don’t you know? Answer (slaps interviewer’s thigh vigorously).

PT: I know.

Obasanjo: Okay. They went through a process. And that is the process that the constitution and the electoral system allow.

PT: In other words, are you saying that all of us are guilty?

Obasanjo: Of course. If you want to put that, everybody who voted for them is guilty.

PT: But you know people believed you. People believed you. When you speak….

Obasanjo: (Cuts in) When I speak, I am not an oracle. And I’m not infallible. But on this particular one I have said to all of you, you can get a job for a man you cannot do it for him. Even your own son if you put him in a job…. There is a good saying that if you want to know how anybody will perform, put him in position of power or put money into his hand.

PT: So maybe the thing to say is that you didn’t do enough due diligence…

Obasanjo: (Cuts in) No. You are wrong. There’s no due diligence that you can do to allow a man…. You cannot know the quality of a gift from the wrapping. You don’t know that, you will never go anywhere (slaps interviewer’s thigh). That is absolute wrong.

PT: That point has to be made…

Obasanjo: (Cuts in) But I’ve always made it. I keep on making it. In my book, I said look, Gowon sent me to the war front and because of my performance there, my popularity started to rise…

PT: (Cuts in) Because he knew you had the capacity, he checked you very well…

Obasanjo: (Cuts in) No no no. Adekunle was there before me. So he didn’t know Adekunle had the capacity? Answer me. In that same Division, Adekunle was there. And if Adekunle had remained there, there’s the possibility that Nigeria could have lost the war. So will you blame him for that?

PT: We won’t. But you know a lot of people believe that between 1999 and 2007 when you left was a time that a lot changed in Nigeria for the better. And people just keep saying that you destroyed everything that you put in place with the successors you enthroned.

Obasanjo: But take Ngozi (Okonjo-Iweala), who worked for me. And who worked competently for me. Because I know Ngozi’s weaknesses, but I know her strong points. Her strong point is technical competence. But Ngozi needs to be led and to be supervised. Now will you comment on Ngozi who worked for me as the same Ngozi who worked for Jonathan? Will you? But it’s the same person.

PT: At what point do you think she derailed if I may use that word?

Obasanjo: No.

PT: Is it at the point that you changed her – because you removed her as finance minister. Was it at that point that she began to derail?

Obasanjo: She derailed because….when Jonathan even said he wanted her, I said ‘I hope you can manage her.’ And Ngozi herself sent me a text (and) I told her times have changed.

PT: But why did you change her? She was managing the economy very well for you. Why did you now remove her suddenly?

Obasanjo: I wrote it in that my book.

PT: It didn’t come out clearly enough?

Ex-President Olusegun Obasanjo at an Ake Arts and Books Festival in Abeokuta on Friday... Photo: Courtesy Victor EhikhamenorObasanjo:It must have come out. Maybe you haven’t read the book very well. I said I’ve touched reform. I’ve touched almost everywhere except Ministry of Education and Ministry of Foreign Affairs. So one day, I was in my office and the Head of Service, Yayale (Ahmed), came in. He said ‘look, you are looking not happy, what is the matter?’ I said I am worried about two ministries and the ministers who can do the work I wanted to be done there in these two ministries are already doing good work where they are. And he said ‘talk let me see.’ I said education and foreign affairs. And he said ‘who are the ministers that you think can do the job.’ I said Oby (Ezekwesili), Ngozi, and El-Rufai. He said ‘what is Oby doing for you now?’ I said Oby is doing Solid Minerals. He said ‘Sir, in all sincerity, I know you don’t like to rank ministries, but will you say Ministry of Solid Minerals is as important as Ministry of Education.’ I said yes I don’t rank ministries, they are all important. He said, ‘Can’t you take any of these three to do education and then get somebody else to do solid minerals?’ So I took Oby there. Now in the Ministry of Finance we had got debt relief, so I could afford to take Ngozi to Foreign Affairs. That’s all. And then she had Nenadi (Usman) who was the minister of state. She’s not a buffoon. And then, which is also part of her weakness, she came to me and said, look, since it’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, she will like to take International Finance along with it. I said talk to your sister with whom you are working and I don’t see anything wrong with that provided you work out a relationship. But she didn’t accord Nenadi the recognition and the consideration that was necessary. I then said the ministry of International finance should go back to Finance and that happened. She said she couldn’t act. She put in a letter of resignation. And she had done that before, and before she could come and get people to come and beg, I announced acceptance (of her resignation).

PT: She once resigned before and she took it back?

Obasanjo: Yes.

PT: Which means you were always having disagreements…

Obasanjo: No no no. I know her character.

PT: So why did she resign the first time?

Obasanjo: She just felt if she cannot have her way, with me…. If I am the one in charge, then it has to be what I see as what is the best interest of the nation.

PT: So even when she resigned, if you didn’t announce the acceptance she would have come back. So all efforts to make her come back didn’t work?

Obasanjo: No no no. Because I had announced.

PT: In 1999, IBB supported you to become president…

Obasanjo: (Cuts in) I said that.

PT: Yes, you said that. And many even said he helped fund your campaign at the time.

Obasanjo: No.

PT: You didn’t say that. You said he supported you. But in your book, you spoke of how in 2011, you chose to support Jonathan…..because you called a South West PDP meeting where Jonathan was endorsed, even when IBB had also indicated interest in running. Why did you prefer to act that way?

Obasanjo: I wrote in my book that this is the opportunity we have for a minority. And I’ve said that. I’ve explained that. I’ve said that times without number. And we have scaled that hurdle. Nobody in Nigeria today can say ‘oh, because I’m a minority I cannot get there.’

PT: So was he not angry with you that ‘look, I backed you in 1999?’

Obasanjo: That’s not…What nonsense is that? Because you backed me I must back you? It doesn’t matter who you are? And I don’t have consideration for Nigeria? It’s consideration that you backed me? No, if that is the way you think then you are short-sighted and myopic and stupid. And put that one. No Nigerian should think that way. You backed me? And if you don’t back me others will back me. So everybody who backed me that time, I must now come and say, look, when you want anything, any office…. I don’t act like that.

PT: It means that you were able to break the jinx of the problem of minority.

Obasanjo: It is necessary that we deal with that.

PT: You said something very shocking in your book – that the presidency instructed EFCC to remove a vital document in Gbenga Daniel’s file in their custody as a way of getting the former governor off their hook.

Obasanjo: No. The president knows about it but it was his chief of staff who gave the instruction.

PT: With the consent of the then president?

Obasanjo: The president knows about it.

PT: Now listen to what you wrote in page 81 of your book. “To fight corruption, the leader needs absolute transparency, no skeleton in the cupboard, clean hands, a clear mind, fear of God, and absolute honesty and integrity, submission to scrupulous investigation. Search and enquiries are also good for a leader who wants to lead by example.” Great message for any leader all over the world! This is prescriptive. Now what do you say to those who keep linking you with corruption during your own tenure, especially the unresolved Halliburton scam for which some of your aides were arrested?

Obasanjo: Look, anybody can make any allegation. Go and read the EFCC report on me. I’m the only leader who has left office who has had, I said they should carry out clinical… did you see that in the book? And if you haven’t seen that in the book then you haven’t read the book. So what else do you want? (Ndudi) Elumelu carried out a report. Did you see the report of the House and the action of the House? What more do you want? So it doesn’t matter the allegation you make, that’s entirely up to you. Halliburton, Bodunde (one of his aides) has been taken to court twice and the court has dismissed the case. What more do you want? The latest was the one Jonathan did. Just before he left, he took Bodunde back to court. He was discharged and the case dismissed the first time. The second time Jonathan took him to court and he was discharged again. So what do you want?

PT: You may not know about it, you may not have a hand in it, but it does appear, especially from reports from US investigators that some officials of your administration perhaps took bribe from Halliburton.

Obasanjo: No no no! I don’t deny that. But not me! I don’t deny their reports about Halliburton but not me. I don’t even know what Halliburton was doing here. So what’s your problem? And EFCC looked into it. You read the report of EFCC bordering on Halliburton.

PT: The only gap is that people are wondering why you didn’t take steps to bring those officials of your regime to book.

Obasanjo: (Cuts in) There’s no gap. You can make any allegation. Now EFCC – you can count number of people who are taken to court. I don’t take anybody to court, Mojeed. And don’t annoy me. Now you have the system that takes them to court. I don’t take anybody to court. Because if I have to be the one to say ‘take this one to court,’ that will be witch- hunting. That’s not my job. My job is – set up the system and if anybody in that system is not performing then look for somebody to perform. So it doesn’t matter what allegation. If you read that report of EFCC, one man was hired, and he went out with all sorts of spurious allegations and EFCC took it one by one. Even Ribadu told me that when he gave that report, because he didn’t give the report to me…I said, look, carry out a critical investigation. I thought that was good. Then when he wrote his report, he gave it to Yar’Adua. And he said Yar’Adua asked him, ‘You can’t find anything at all?’ He brought Metropolitan Police here and he said whenever they are doing investigation in the past, when they get somewhere they will say ‘oh, yes, some people are interested.’ But this is the first time they had free hand to carry out investigation. So what more do you want? And what I put there is what I believe in. Has anybody working under me said to you that ‘oh, he asked me to take bribe?

To be Continued…

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  • SurveyConcepts Online

    Am not sure I want to spend my old age like OBJ, making so many enemies with little time for repentance!

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  • Psalm 35

    If ordinary constructive questions could offend this man and irritate him this much then we can see why the country failed under him and how he stubbornly chose and handpicked his successors

    • NGOZI

      Allegations by former President Olusegun Obasanjo that President Goodluck Jonathan administration squandered the country’s reserves were absolutely untrue, Minister of Finance, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, said on Wednesday.

      The minister said in a statement that, rather than $67 billion, the administration inherited only $43.13 billion.

      Ms. Okonjo-Iweala explained that part of the foreign reserves was deployed by the Central Bank of Nigeria, CBN, to stabilize the falling value of the Naira at a time crude oil prices at the international oil market crashed in September 2011 to $31.7 billion.

      Mr. Obasanjo in a meeting some South West women leaders in Abeokuta on Monday had alleged that about $67 billion left in the foreign reserve account by his administrations and his immediate successor, Umaru Yar’adua, was depleted by the Jonathan government.

      “At the end of May 2007, Nigeria’s gross reserves stood at $43.13 billion – comprising the CBN’s external reserves of $31.5 billion, $9.43 billion in the Excess Crude Account, and $2.18 billion in Federal Government’s savings,” Ms. Okonjo-Iweala said.

      The minister said the balance in the foreign reserves have been fluctuating over time in line with the swings of global crude oil prices in the international oil market.
      According to her, the reality has been that since May 2007, oil prices reached a peak of $147 per barrel, the country’s reserves rose from $43.13 billion to peak at $62 billion in September 2008 during the Yar’adua/Jonathan Administration.

      On Excess Crude revenue savings, the minister said it was used by the three tiers of government to shore up the economy and cushion the impact of global financial crisis at its height between 2008 and 2009.

      As a result, she said Nigeria was one of the few countries in the world that did not seek assistance from international financial institutions at that time to cushion the impact of the global financial crisis on the economy.

      Besides, Mrs. Okonjo-Iweala said the savings in the ECA were also used to pay for fuel subsidies to petroleum marketers to ensure uninterrupted supply of fuel in the country.

    • Maria

      But you supported the so-called successor(GEJ)!

      • Psalm 35

        My sister I wouldnt deny I did not support the good parts of his administration but I equally at numerous times spoke against his seeming weakness and cluelessness. My disagreement with folks that attacked him not due to performance but strictly based on the part of the country he was form, may have overwhelmingly made me look like his fanatical supporter,but its not so.Anywhere there is truth you will see me propagating it no matter who is involved

  • favourtalk

    Because she looted for GEJ and his kinsmen during the last regime.
    All nigerians are aware of her scheme using Nig fund to help the international world

    • OGUN

      A political scientist and speaker at the 39th public lecture on “Bullet versus Ballot: Interrogating Nigeria’s 4th Republic Electoral’s Consultations,” Prof. Adekunle Amuwo, said former President Olusegun Obasanjo failed Nigeria during his tenure.

      The lecture was organised by the Covenant University, Ota, Ogun State.

      Amuwo, who claimed he had full knowledge of how Obasanjo emerged the President of the country in 1999, said that the former President’s rule was the genesis of the level of corruption currently being experienced in the country.

  • BURNING SPEAR

    I do not understand why some media houses still find comments by Obasanjo newsworthy–It baffles me—–why a morally bankrupt person like Obj will be making the headlines daily in our newsstands—let him examine the circumstances under which she Ngzi left left his worthless visionless YORUBA ORIENTED government

    • SBA

      Mumu, can you compare OBJ’s tenure to Jonathan’s. Tell me one significant legislature signature by Jonathan. Why will it not baffle you. Go ask people who now have their pension guaranteed with the pension fund he put in place. OBJ will all his shenanigans is far better than your clueless GEJ.

      • IskaCountryman

        what is legislature signature?…dimwit…

  • Rotimi Lawanson

    Obasanjo is a liar. You are a liar! You removed Ngozi Okonjo Iweala because she was in the way of funds for the elections. That is why you removed her because all the politicians said she would not permit them to access funds. So you appointed Nenadi Usman whom everyone in Abuja knew you were sleeping with. For you to come and twist the truth. May God punish this Old liar. Who doesn’t have strengths and weaknesses? What about all your weaknesses OBJ? sleeping with your son’s wife? Peoples wives? Stealing money but pointing fingers at others. Obasanjo is a Saul!

    • SBA

      And Okonji Iweala was not in the way of funds for Jonathan’s election abi. Your point isn’t valid. The woman disappointed me at least. When Jonathan appointed her, I had high hopes that things will be for the better. I am shocked to read about all the scandals during her tenure

      • BeeJay

        SBA, it is clear to all how Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala stood for transparency and accountability all through her tenure. Whatever scandal you’re talking about are either cooked up or totally out of her jurisdiction.

        • SBA

          Friend are you in this country?

          • Fairgame

            Yes he is. And you probably are not. It is still on good record that she brought transparency to the management of public finances. All the excess crude account that people are shouting about she fought to have it set up and have money saved in it. So no propaganda can change the facts that but for her management of the ecit Nigetia would have been worse than Ghana and Venezuela. So let the incestouous Obj and his band of haters like El Rufai, Ezekwesili his concubine and co go and die. No one will miss them. They are poisonous to Nigeria’s future.

      • Rotimi Lawanson

        SBA why didn’t you just appoint her President General of every Ministry and every parastatal in Nigeria? All of you are bloody hypocrites. When someone is coordinating Minister it doesn’t mean the person is Supervising Minister. She cannot possibly know what is happening in every ministry while trying to keep our economy afloat. Oyibo people know that this out economy would have crashed if she wasn’t there. With the active sabotage from APC elements and fifth columnist working for a Northern Presidency, it is little wonder the economy didn’t collapse. By now you would have been trading N2000 to a dollar!

        • SBA

          I don’t agree with you. Just because she was not the supervising minister doesn’t exonerate her. she was the coordinating minister and the bulk stops at her desk. Did she not reveled in being called the coordinating minister. Now when it comes to accepting responsibility for the mess you are making up excuses for her. I don’t care who is working for whom, all I want is any Nigerian who can give me good governance. I want to go to bed with my two eyes closed. I want to be able to give my children good education. I want to retire into comfort when I stop working. I want to live a better life than my parents

        • D.A

          You are so very ignorant. How many things did she stop under the corrupt Jonathan. Money went missing without a peep and without approval from the NEC. All we heard from the incompetent minister of finance was that it was approved by FAAC. FAAC then let it be known that it did not and could never give approval for deduction of money from the excess crude account. Then the #raud said they were informed after the event but they did not give approval. Then the woman said the deduction was authorised by the presidency in clear breach of the constitution. Then you come here sprouting inane rubbish about the woman standing in the way of unauthorised deduction of money??? You have always lacked common sense “femi/Wahala/Rotimi Lawanson”.

    • IskaCountryman

      i have it on good authority that obasanjo hammered ngozi and obi…he has a craving for hairy nyamiri women…

  • ALI WAZIRI

    The saying that those whom the gods want to destroy, they first make mad, may be haunting Nigeria’s ex-tyrant once again. This time, it is not the ex-dictator’s violent and lawless kleptocracy that seems to be the matter. Judging from the sworn affidavit by Obasanjo’s first son, Gbenga, it would appear that his father’s life may be much more seedy and sordid than anything one has ever imagined. To cut a long story short, Gbenga, through his lawyers, attested that his father, Olusegun “Igbochukwu” Obasanjo, has had a love affair with his wife! Readers are invited to digest the report on this abomination below. Poor Gbenga! What kind of father would destroy a son’s life this way? Like in the Iyabo contract scandal, this “family affair” (no pun intended) has profound socio-economic implications for the country.

    First son of former President Olusegun Obasanjo, Gbenga, has sensationally accused him , presently asking Lagos High Court to dissolve the seven-year-old marriage, doubts the paternity of the fruits of the wedlock. The shocking revelation is contained in a fresh affidavit deposited to by the petitioner in response to cross petition of the defendant, a copy of which was made available to Sunday Sun .

  • EMEKA OFFOR

    In recent times, Nigerians have been fed with the ugly events in the Directorate of Petroleum Resources (DPR), a department in the Petroleum Ministry where oil blocks have been sold behind closed doors against the established rules and procedures. A case in point is the Addax/Starcrest deal which has caused a lot of ripples in the Petroleum Ministry. However, the Addax/Starcrest transaction is only a small part of the corruption that riddled the oil industry under the stewardship of President Obasanjo who was in charge of the ministry during the better part of his administration.Investigations by The Times of Nigeria show that money was siphoned from the country by President Obasanjo and his cronies directly from Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC).
    The sum of $1 billion dollars was through NNPC-NAPIMS and the Central Bank of Nigeria for payment of non existent cash call. Also, over $130 million dollars of interest generated from $650 million dollars was illegally transferred out of NNPC joint venture account with J.P. Morgan Chase account in New York. Furthermore, another diversion of over $4.5 billion revenue by Ministry of Petroleum Resources through production of crude oil in excess of approved OPEC quota between 1999 and 2002.

  • Rotimi Lawanson

    Obasanjo has the abominable habit of speaking sanctimoniously about himself while denigrating anyone else he considers to be a threat. How can we forget how upset Obasanjo was that his Minister of Finance and Head of the Economic Team was invited to the G7 and he wasn’t. Who can forget how he always complained that people everywhere were glorifying her rather than him who she worked for? How can we forget how angry he was when she told him that it was wrong for him to seek a third term? That man is a terrible human being. He will steal but then accuse others of stealing. Obasanjo has always believed he is Nigeria. But God is bigger than him. We are tired of this terrible man. He should shut up! We remember the power money that disappeared. We remember Transcorp. We remember how he violated the constitution so many times. We remember how he let those Ubah rogues kidnap a governor. We remember how he started the cash for positions bribery in the National Assembly. We remember how he bribed everyone in the hope of getting third term.

  • Fulani Nomad

    Sometimes even devil himself, circumstances squeeze the truth out of him. Baba has spoken well and he has tell the truth.

    • Iyabo

      on how to sleep with your sons wife–the man could have slept with his won daughters also.

  • Peter Gwa

    OBASANJO AWARDED THE TAM Contract to Emeke Offor—at the cost of over 100m dollar. Emeka did nothing as Obj just shared the money with him. Look at the insults he is getting from the public at his old age. If my own daughter can disown me at the evening of my life I will commit suicide. Not to talk of being accused of sleeping with the wife of my son. Its like that tradition is allowed in the culture of Yorubas. To sleep with your son’s wife.

  • Spoken word

    hmmm.interesting.

  • Okey

    Saint I-Know-It-All thinks he is smart, that he was being interviewed for people on planet Moon. He deliberately “forgot and omitted” to inform his interviewer that Emeka Offor became friends with him after “investing” substantial part of the TAM money in his election campaign of both 1999 and 2003.

  • ToriolaOlufemi

    If you wann learn how to chop and clean mouth.. kindly visit ABAT and OBJ

  • BeeJay

    Obasanjo lies with so much ease! It still baffles me why a man as old as this would still go about ranting and talking gibberish.

  • kurt

    Senior Baboon

    • Gwongworo

      hahah

  • Akinwale

    Obasanjo likes to think of himself as a god — infallible and all-wise. Did you notice how he aggressively tackled every comment that appeared to be uncomplimentary? It’s easy to understand why he would try to paint Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala in bad light. For OBJ, anyone that does not follow him like a buffoon must be dealt with. Too bad for a supposed statesman.

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  • SamPsalm

    Very useful interview. It is good to know that former leaders in their lifetime are finding it necessary to try and polish their memory. There is now that sense that a good name matters – which is what I take out from this interview. Obasanjo would like to be remembered well. Presently, he knows he is not. But then so is so many Nigerians have trusted in the past few decades especially Ngozi Okonjo Iweala and Goodluck Jonathan in the recent past 4 years. Hope Buhari and Osinbajo and the ministers who will serve with them will read and learn. Better books can be written about how Nigerian was finally enabled to succeed than excuses as to why it was not someone’s fault that thew success did not happen

    • Marus Garvey

      shut up Sam psalm–pls just shut up–your regional thoughts smell like that of obasanjo. What type of Image is there for Obj to clean up? From Shagari to Buhari- Ibb and Abacha—who has obasanjo ever said anything good about? Obj is dirty he stinks.

      • SamPsalm

        You really must be full of it – that you now are an expert in smelling out dirty craps. Probably time for you to decompress a bit. So, you think that stating an obvious truth is an opportunity for you to spew your overflowing you-know what? Obasanjo is trying to clean up his image. Has he succeeded? That’s not something that somebody like you who delights in smelling out shit can tell. But at least, you should recognise an effort where one is made – or see a doctor

    • WELFARE

      For welfare, Nigerians have never had it so bad in their millions. Instead of government to give employment, it became the stock in trade of this regime to send workers to the unemployment market by all sorts of epithet with ignoble description such as down-sizing, reducing the labour force and so on. Unemployment became unbelievably rampant to the extent that workers approached the doors of government offices with trepidation, thinking they would be sacked any moment. Security of employment became nil in government services. In the private sector, profit motive was taken to a most ungodly level. Sack became a culture of the private sector. Whenever the private sector wanted more profit, they resorted to showing workers out without adequate recompense and this was aggravated by the so-called economic reforms of General Obasanjo where the heritage of Nigeria was sold, not even to the highest bidders but to the favoured bidders, contrary to the Constitution of Nigeria.

  • burning spear

    (Heartbreaking. That is the story of the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC). Awfully heartbreaking. Norway’s Statoil, Malaysia’s Petronas and our own NNPC were all set up as state-owned companies in the 1970s with a similar dream: to conquer the world of oil and gas. Today, the Norwegian company, now named Statoil ASA, has operations in 36 countries. It is ranked by Forbes as the world’s 11th largest oil and gas company and the world’s 36th largest company by profit. Petronas, founded in 1974 – two years after Statoil – is ranked by Fortune as the 68th largest company in the world and the 12th most profitable company in the world. It is Asia’s most profitable company and has business interests in 35 countries.

    Where is our own NNPC? It is the typical Nigerian story – stunted, scam-ridden and downtrodden. A cesspool of decay. Veteran joint venture partners. All dressed up and nowhere to go. NNPC could have been up there competing with Statoil ASA and Petronas. It was established in 1971 as the Nigerian National Oil Company (NNOC). The military government, under Gen. Olusegun Obasanjo, restructured and renamed it NNPC in 1977, having merged NNOC with Federal Ministry of Mines and Steel. The aim was to step up the game and recover lost grounds. Just think about it: NNPC could have been all over Africa exploring oil and gas today. NNPC could have been ranked Africa’s most profitable company. NNPC could be featuring in Fortune 500. Why can cant she because Obj and his friends from the Fulani North killed NNPC and Nigeria Airways.)

    • Still

      it is too long haaaa

      • Rotimi Lawanson

        Ode buruku! Everything is too long for your shallow brain

        • Still

          Oloriburuku.. don’t you have job ni ? Nobody is reading your nonsense

    • New Nigerian

      …according to you Goodluck Jonathan and Diezani, who used NNPC as their piggy bank are Fulanis from the North. I dare say Geography is not your strong subject,,,except of course if you mean Ijaws of the Niger Delta is the new Fulani North

      • Fairgame

        Why did Obj who was minister of Petroleum for 8 years not reform the NNPC so no one can use it as their piggy bank? Hypocrites will always want to point fingers at others and not themselves. Obj believed he will rule Aso Rock from Otta and so he thought his robbery of Niger Delta crude oil will continue this he did not reform NNPC but his chosen men at Aso Rock blockEd him causing him to go all over the place screaming like a dog on heat. since it is well understood that Nigeria is not a real nation but only a country because of the sharing of Niger Delta crude oil money, Obj had less right than GEJ and Diezani to use the NNPC as his piggy bank as he did for 8 years.

    • Buhari4Ever

      Tell me if, Tam David West, Don Etiebet, Dan Etete and his $1Bn loot, Edmond Daukoru, Diezani Allison-Madueke, who stashed house $700m cash at home, did not remit N3.7Trillion from NNPC and reportedly stole over $6Bn, are Fulanis. What of Emeka Ofor and his fictitious TAM?

      • Alamu

        Do not forget Ajumogobia

  • WELFARE

    When Obasanjo first came to power in 1999, many Nigerians had high hopes that they would get rid of dictatorial tendencies which characterised military rule, but unfortunately, we had a tyrant in democratic toga. We expected that the provisions of the constitution vis-à-vis the welfare of the people and their security would be the focus of the government because Section 14, sub-section 2b of the Constitution says that the security and welfare of the people shall be the primary focus of government. Alas! it was not to be under the government of Obasanjo. Take security for instance. He opened up the insecurity of this country in November 1999 when he gave orders to shoot on sight in Odi. And more than 2500 Nigerians were slaughtered because, unfortunately, 13 policemen were missing as a result of the protestation of the Odi people in Bayelsa State.
    You saw the killing in Zaki Biam in Benue State. We saw him give an order in Lagos State to shoot the OPC on sight and we protested. And since he gave the signal that human life counted for nothing, police followed the queue, extra-judicial killings became the agenda of the government. Every respectable human rights organisation abroad rated Nigeria very low in terms of extra-judicial killing. Thousands of Nigerians were slaughtered without a recourse to the judicial process by the police and other security agencies, to the extent that it became the culture of Nigerians to ritualise human lives. Legs, hands and other parts of human bodies became a common commodity in markets and dead bodies were being picked here and there, headless. That was Obasanjo’s regime and what human dignity meant for that regime for eight years.

    • Still

      it is too long haa

  • LATE CHIEF GANI

    But today, the major sectors are being sold. The latest example is the refinery in Port Harcourt, one of the four refineries in Nigeria. For eight years, Obasanjo did not build a single refinery to ensure a total reduction in the costs of petroleum products. Instead, Obasanjo, contrary to the Constitution of Nigeria, sold and he is still in the process of selling even in the dying days of the regime, the major sectors of our economy at give-away prices. Look at NITEL, another government investment that is relevant to the welfare of Nigerian people, it is still in the same mess. Our constitution says that economy of the country should not be operated in such a way that wealth would be concentrated in a few hands, but we are now having the very opposite of what the constitution says should be done. A company emerged, called Transcorp. There was no Transcorp before Obasanjo but Transcorp emerged from the bowel of Aso Rock, founded with the collaboration, connivance and conceptualisation of General Obasanjo to the extent that he owns 200 million shares. According to him, it will be the pillar of the private sector emerging in Nigeria. There is little difference between Transcorp and General Olusegun Obasanjo, except that a few favoured friends were brought into Transcorp. Ndi Okereke-Onyiuke, the Director-General of the Nigerian Stock Exchange who is supposed to be a public officer runs the Transcorp with General Obasanjo. Both public officers contravened the code of conduct in the 5th and 3rd Schedules of the Constitution. Behold! General Obasanjo was never taken before the Code of Conduct Bureau for this. I protested to the Code of Conduct, I protested to the National Assembly, nothing came out of it. Here is a man who abused his office, set up a company to acquire the heritage of Nigerians. Today, Transcorp has acquired Nicon Hilton, and it has acquired NITEL. If this is not corruption, then I don’t know what corruption means.

    • Still

      it is too long ha

  • UOU

    Clown wearing sandals, reluctant baboon and monkey

  • IskaCountryman

    dat is because obasanjo hammered ngozi…johnathan did not…

    • Rotimi Lawanson

      It is ur mother that he hammered! God punish you! It is your mother he hammered! Look at how careless you are with lies.

      • IskaCountryman

        come my son…are you now the gatekeeper of ngozis toto to know what went in and out?…why are you foaming from the mouth?

        • segun iodun

          You truly belong in the gutter
          You also suffer from deep psychosis.
          The fact that your mother is a harlot does not mean that all women are harlots.
          So go back to the mad house where you came from.
          This discussion is not for lunatics

          • IskaCountryman

            thank you mister sanity…but you refused to tell us what proprietary rights to her toto that obasanjo could not have expunged with presidential fiat…

          • segun iodun

            You are most welcome.
            It is the same proprietary rights your mother has to her toto that all those dunks who patronize her expunge with the meger sums they pay- ha ha ha lol
            Olori Buruku.

          • IskaCountryman

            ha ha ha lol olori buruku…must be very amusing to you…

          • segun iodun

            Yes Monkeys like you continue to amuse me.
            For a few bananas they are prepared to entertain the crowd.
            Jumping from one tree to the other making all sorts of ape sounds.
            So jump monkey jump. I have a bunch of bananas for you. Ha ha ha lol
            Ode buruku.

          • IskaCountryman

            go take your meds son…

          • Pause

            you are amused that amnesty is coming to Islamists from their sponsor

          • segun iodun

            Your mind is playing tricks on you Ape
            You are the one on medication
            A sick Ape that suffers from deep psychosis
            So shut up your dirty mouth and take your psychosis medication
            Ode Buruku olosi

          • IskaCountryman

            duh..

  • Darlynstar

    When will this old man stop running others down…it looks like he is the only intelligent man out of 170 million nigerians

  • FactsandFigures

    I really cannot understand the purpose of this interview. None of the points raised were clarified – obfuscation everywhere. The headline by itself is also deceiving. Did Dr NOI resign or did you fire her? If Emeka Offor did not fix the refinery as contracted, what did you do to bring him to order? You said nothing meaningful about the Haliburton files but when the reporter tried to get more information, you became upset. The same refineries that you wanted to sell for $750M is working today. Is there “truth” anywhere in this country? Seriously, What are we to believe?

  • Yasin

    On a light note. The woman in the pic looking at Baba with too much admiration, like ‘…the apple of my eyes…’. Even with the apparent age gap? Na wa for women o.
    Allah bless you Baba OBJ.
    You may not be a saint, but we value having an elder to whom people from all subregions of Nigeria go to for intercession whenever ‘..water nearly pass garri…’. Even the international community always sound you out before taking a position on issues concerning Nigeria and Africa. An achievement indeed!
    However Baba, the reporter said you slapped him on the thigh @ “…Do you know or don’t you know? Answer (slaps interviewer’s thigh vigorously)….”
    Baba please don’t mistakenly do that in UK/US ooo! They will take it as physical or sexual abuse and katakata fit burst.
    May Allah bless you Baba, Amiin.

    • ingore the devil

      did u see the way he was holding unto Oby the wife of a pastor? There is no woman who worked with Obj that he did not sleep with -not one of them–he had sex with all of them.

      • Alamu

        Including Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala?

  • Musa Namu

    The saying that those whom the gods want to destroy, they first make mad, may be haunting Nigeria’s ex-tyrant once again. This time, it is not the ex-dictator’s violent and lawless kleptocracy that seems to be the matter. Judging from the sworn affidavit by Obasanjo’s first son, Gbenga, it would appear that his father’s life may be much more seedy and sordid than anything one has ever imagined. To cut a long story short, Gbenga, through his lawyers, attested that his father, Olusegun “Igbochukwu” Obasanjo, has had a love affair with his wife! Readers are invited to digest the report on this abomination below. Poor Gbenga! What kind of father would destroy a son’s life this way? Like in the Iyabo contract scandal, this “family affair” (no pun intended) has profound socio-economic implications for the country.

    First son of former President Olusegun Obasanjo, Gbenga, has sensationally accused him , presently asking Lagos High Court to dissolve the seven-year-old marriage, doubts the paternity of the fruits of the wedlock. The shocking revelation is contained in a fresh affidavit deposited to by the petitioner in response to cross petition of the defendant, a copy of which was made available to Sunday Sun .

  • Omotolaaraujo

    He’s a legend in his own mind. He’d make a lousy witness.

  • joe

    Who can help OBJ please?. Why is OBJ like this?. Must you talk on every subject?. Why do OBJ think that he is the best for Nigeria and Nigerians?.

  • amechi agbim

    Mojeed, Mojeed, Mojeed,

    How many times did i call you? There’s self-defence in the law of Nigeria.
    The next time Olusegun Obasanjo slaps your thighs again, slap his thighs.
    What nonsense is that? Who gave Obasanjo that right to slap anyone’s thighs?
    You asked the most intelligent questions ever put to Obasanjo in Nigerian journalism.
    Obasanjo then felt rattled by your peerless investigative type of journalist questioning.

    To me nobody believes this BODUNDE alibi, that is cock and bull story Obasanjo has told.
    There is nothing called final investigation in law. So, Buhari should re-investigate Obasanjo.
    EFCC is now to do a full money trail of Mr. Bodunde, as Obasanjo’s personal assistant.
    Bodunde is too low in the ladder and has no approval powers to be given Haliburton bribes.
    To me, Mr. Bodunde was sent on errand to collect this Haliburton bribes in three tranches.
    So the question is to determine by money trail in whose pockets the bribes lastly landed.
    For the money trail, General Olusegun Obasanjo is a first if not the main suspect on that.

  • Fairgame

    I salute great Ngozi OkonjoIweala because from this interview it is now clear to me that she is the light that darkness keeps wanting to snuff out. Obj the incestouous Otta man openly attacking a woman? Ha it means that
    1. OkonjoIweala really put him in his place unlike Ezekwesili and Nenadi Usman. So finally Obj’s frustration is boiling over
    2. OkonjoIweala did resign from the Otta farmer’s cabinet and so all those that had been lying that she was fired can shut up
    3. OkonjoIweala is a woman of integrity otherwise Obj and his foot soldiers would have since published all the dirt on her if she had any. So far they have made many baseless allegations and spread propaganda and lies. No evidence no facts to back up their many accusations.
    4. Now it makes sense why Obj’s foot soldiers Nasir El Rufai, Ezekwesili, Soludo and co hate OkonjoIweala with equal passion as their master Obj. The woman won’t just tow the Obj ‘I am god ‘ line.
    Thank you OkonjoIweala. My prayers for God to protect you from these blood sucking demons will not cease. It is indeed God that has kept OionjoIweala safe and clean from all the pollution around.
    Obj is truly one of the many cancerous tumors that God will soon cut out from Nigeria

    • D.A

      JOKER. Self deception clearly works with you. You must have recently left Aro.

      • Fairgame

        You are the joker. Propaganda and lies have fried your brain. Thankfully a lot of Nigerians still have brains and are thinking with their brains these days.

  • REDEEM

    LET THE CORRUPTION PROBE START NOW.
    Why IS Buhari and His DSS AGENTS quite over Aisha Buhari’s Money Laundering Case? This is very Worrying.
    START THE PROBE NOW!!!

    N2.2Billion Presidential US Visit And Benefits.

    1] Military Aid: US Refused to Help Nigeria because of their claimed Nigerian Military poor Human Right record.

    2] Economy Benefits: Nigerian Team traveled without any economic or financial expert that will intelligently discuss on the same level with the US Team. They were advised to go home and put their house in other.

    3] Social Benefits: President Buhari took pictures with Obama and John Kerry. Gov Okorocha used his own pictures to erect Billboards in Imo. After denying knowledge of the Billboards, the same Governor have commission new ones across the state.

    4] Financial Benefit: Buhari secured $2.1Billion World bank Loan to rebuild North East. This is the first in human history a country will secure loan to rebuild for an area still under attack or a war zone.WHAT A COUNTRY- WHAT A SHAME

  • TAWANDA INCOMMUNICADO

    The grand master of heavy scale corruption.

    The national trainer and mentor of corrupt politicians.

    The butcher of Odi and Zakibiam.

    The self acclaimed “Mr Perfect” and ignoble glory hunter.

    The bastion of sexual immorality

    The Kettle which calls the pot black

    The Hallibourton bribe givers know who they gave bribes to and they fingered him…….AND NIGERIANS BELIEVE IT !!

  • JJ

    Though not perfect, OBJ is kind hearted and a good leader as well.

    And they say OBJ is not handsome. Women sometimes can’t just hide their emotions. The lady by OBJ’s side says it all. Call him any name, but you will rarely see a woman that will show you such an admiration, even at his age. OBJ must be very handsome somewhere. No wonder our Igbo ladies were not left out.

  • amazing2012

    Yes you are right. Last time she work for unity, dignity and professionalism.
    While under Jonathan she was convinced to work for “Christ'”. Especially with the way power was handed over to Jonathan. She strongly believed that Northners never want josh an because of his faith. CAN convinced her to be reckless and Loots in Jesus name !!

    • Gani

      Obasanjo. For example, his library took me to court. His library which he launched on May 14, 2005 at Abeokuta garnered N8.5 billion. [Femi] Otedola gave N250 million; [Otunba Mike] Adenuga N350 million; [Aliko] Dangote, N220 million; consortium of banks N1.9 billion; consortium of oil companies N2.4 billion and so on. These oil companies we talk about, for eight years Obasanjo was the Minister of Petroleum Resources apart from being the head of state. No oil block was ever given to anybody without the connivance and approval of General Olusegun Obasanjo. He was more active as an oil minister than Mr. President. So there must be more than meets the eye. I will therefore want Ribadu to dust all files, to look at all records and do a thorough investigation into the administration of General Obasanjo, into the personal fortunes of Obasanjo, into the family fortunes of Obasanjo and into Obasanjo’s fortunes all over the world. And let us come with the correct analysis and truth about Olusegun Obasanjo. So that when the facts are all gathered and known, Ribadu will then take the matter to court and charge Obasanjo for corruption and abuse of office. So that the truth will be told about this man who pretended so much.

    • Fairgame

      Show your evidence or shut up. People will Slander you as you have slandered OkonjoIweala here.

      • amazing2012

        Ngozie okonjo wahala !?

  • Elias

    Take it or leave it, Jonathan regime took Nigeria 25 years backward from where Obasanjo left Nigeria. Obasanjo haters can say anything they like against him, he did his best to fix the country. Most of hatred comments are as a result of envy and unfounded sentiments. No one is perfect, Obasanjo has his weaknesses but overall, he came with mind to fix Nigeria and he tried his best.

    • late chief Gani

      The Obasanjo regime will go down in history as the most corrupt regime in the history of this country in the sense that no regime ever made so much money as was made under Obasanjo’s regime. It got to a point that the price of one barrel of crude oil was fetching $70 and Nigeria at that time was producing 3,150,000 (three million, one hundred and fifty thousand) barrels per day. As we talk, the Federal Government is making more than N200,000,000 (two hundred million dollars) everyday, including Sunday. The Price of crude oil later went up to 147 dollars per barrel. Show us what Obasanjo did with the money’? The more money the Obasanjo regime made the poorer the Nigerian people became. And the more money the Obasanjo regime made, the richer a few people became, including Mr. President himself.

    • PolyGon2013

      Most of it are from the ibos. Ibos never loved progress. Okonjo-Iweala needs to be supervised. She was never a leader. You will find good igbos people who can do things technically. What they lack is leadership. If you leave them on their own, they will loot your treasury dry. Ngozi resigned because she no longer has access to money.

    • tuby NY

      U deeply understand the issue/issues n u surely posses uncommon common-sense in this forum regarding the true value of this Ex president, Obasanjo. Nigeria’s modern day economy and political development history will surely BE VERY KIND 2this man whn the time comes or whn it’s all said n DONE!!
      Yup, the man (Obasanjo) never claim 2b perfect or a man wthout a no flaw — but who is among us all??! I don’t have 2lik a man 2appreciate his value or at least acknowledge IT yo.

  • SWISS

    If you ask a Swiss person who their president is, they likely won’t be able to tell you. And it’s not because they are politically apathetic or uninformed. In Switzerland, citizens don’t vote for their president.

    Introducing Switzerland’s peculiar brand of direct democracy. In this small alpine country, citizens elect a new Parliament every four years, and the Parliament chooses a group of seven councilors from different parties. They are the head of state. The presidency (a mostly symbolic role) rotates among the members every year. But the keystone of Swiss democracy is the regular use of referendums, in which citizens vote on everything from their town’s new sports center to the country’s immigration policy.

  • Late Chief Gani

    This man was in prison for three years and his Ota farm which was in bankruptcy then was almost sold. They were thinking of how to sell most of his properties. Today, Obasanjo’s farm is rated as one of the richest in the world, all in a space of eight years that he governed Nigeria. If that is not corruption, then I don’t know what corruption means. If that is not abuse of office, then I do not know what abuse of office means. I protested to the National Assembly, I protested to various organisations, that look, under the Code of Conduct, Nigerians are entitled to go there and ask for all the declaration of assets of any public officer, on conditions that may be prescribed by the National Assembly. We asked the National Assembly to give us the conditions so that we can exercise our rights to know what had been declared by Obasanjo and others, including members of the National Assembly. But till today, they never gave us those conditions. So, Nigerians don’t even have access to the assets declared by the public officers. No public officer’s assets can be examined.
    This regime will go down in history as the most corrupt regime in the history of this country in the sense that no regime ever made so much money as was made under Obasanjo’s regime. It got to a point that the price of one barrel of crude oil was fetching $70 and Nigeria at that time was producing 3,150,000 (three million, one hundred and fifty thousand) barrels per day. As we talk, the Federal Government is making more than N200,000,000 (two hundred million dollars) everyday, including Sunday. The more money the Obasanjo regime made the poorer the Nigerian people became. And the more money the Obasanjo regime made, the richer a few people became, including Mr. President himself.

  • Late Chief Gani

    The Obasanjo regime will go down in history as the most corrupt regime in the history of this country in the sense that no regime ever made so much money as was made under Obasanjo’s regime. It got to a point that the price of one barrel of crude oil was fetching $70 and Nigeria at that time was producing 3,150,000 (three million, one hundred and fifty thousand) barrels per day. As we talk, the Federal Government is making more than N200,000,000 (two hundred million dollars) everyday, including Sunday. The Price of crude oil later went up to 147 dollars per barrel. Show us what Obasanjo did with the money’? The more money the Obasanjo regime made the poorer the Nigerian people became. And the more money the Obasanjo regime made, the richer a few people became, including Mr. President himself. What a thief

  • Gani wails in d spirit world

    Obasanjo. For example, his library took me to court. His library which he launched on May 14, 2005 at Abeokuta garnered N8.5 billion. [Femi] Otedola gave N250 million; [Otunba Mike] Adenuga N350 million; [Aliko] Dangote, N220 million; consortium of banks N1.9 billion; consortium of oil companies N2.4 billion and so on. These oil companies we talk about, for eight years Obasanjo was the Minister of Petroleum Resources apart from being the head of state. No oil block was ever given to anybody without the connivance and approval of General Olusegun Obasanjo. He was more active as an oil minister than Mr. President. So there must be more than meets the eye. I will therefore want Ribadu to dust all files, to look at all records and do a thorough investigation into the administration of General Obasanjo, into the personal fortunes of Obasanjo, into the family fortunes of Obasanjo and into Obasanjo’s fortunes all over the world. And let us come with the correct analysis and truth about Olusegun Obasanjo. So that when the facts are all gathered and known, Ribadu will then take the matter to court and charge Obasanjo for corruption and abuse of office. So that the truth will be told about this man who pretended so much. What a country

  • Outraged

    Okonjo is a thief Jonathan an armed robber. They should both be shot

    • Uncle Gaga (Bruce Wayne)

      stop talking out of your ass! Do no say thing yo do not mean!

      • Outraged

        Shut up me I no be. Mumu like u and Jonathan and the thief and liar okonjo. Thunder strike the three of you

    • Fairgame

      You will be shit as you have wished. All those abusing OkonjoIweala based on lies and propaganda will surely meet their end soon. God will see to that. Slandering a woman who worked to put this country on a firm footing. May tragedy never depart from your house.

      • Outraged

        Tragedy is your bedmate. I know u be mumu like Jonathan. The Otuoke fisherman will meet his end soon for the hardship he caused Nigerians. I blame Obasanjo. Jonathan will soon face the firing squad.

      • Outraged

        Okonjo will face doom soon. You okonjo and Jonathan thunder strike you all.

  • Rommel

    I am wondering why people are afraid of Obasanjo who seems to say freely whatever he feels about anybody,it is now left to president Buhari to do what is required to move Nigeria forward,to do the things he believes can be achieved,to make the nation great again so that we see if this man from Ota will still be praising himself,I blame Jonathan for deciding to become a disappointment,for becoming so corrupt that even IBB canonized himself by calling himself a saint looking at the conducts of Jonathan,today Obasanjo feels that he is clean,should I be surprised? Jonathan caused all this

    • Burning spear

      Happily u are an Ibo man—-with close ties to Itsekiris—i will clap for u if what u have just penned can make sense to people-Sadly yr comment can only be understood from your regional mind———-monkey–just go through what late Gani said about Obj u will cry over the type of education your parents gave u-Happily Obasanjo is not an Ijaw man–He hails from the tribe of the Judases————–in the south-west—-if u can call a monster like obj a saint—then yr thoughts needs help-Honest one should not be shocked to see an Yoruba–Fulani or Ibo praise Obj here——————these are the ethnic groups who feel they own Nigeria

    • share Idea

      Please can you present any facts of corruption that has been linked to GEJ?

  • late chief gani

    The Obasanjo regime will go down in history as the most corrupt regime in the history of this country in the sense that no regime ever made so much money as was made under Obasanjo’s regime. It got to a point that the price of one barrel of crude oil was fetching $70 and Nigeria at that time was producing 3,150,000 (three million, one hundred and fifty thousand) barrels per day. As we talk, the Federal Government is making more than N200,000,000 (two hundred million dollars) everyday, including Sunday. The Price of crude oil later went up to 147 dollars per barrel. Show us what Obasanjo did with the money’? The more money the Obasanjo regime made the poorer the Nigerian people became. And the more money the Obasanjo regime made, the richer a few people became, including Mr. President himself. What a thief

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  • kingbaabu

    Obj is always right. Never wrong. He’s a saint in his own eyes, purer than Jesus Christ.

  • Bol

    Only God knows what Late Gani Fawehinmi would have written about fraud-driven Jonathan regime if he had live to witness it. Obasanjo is neither a saint non a perfect man and his not calling himself one. However, he demonstrated leadership of purpose. He sincerely wanted to move Nigeria forward. That was why he brought the technocrat, who were not any party member, of those time into his government. He brought the likes of Akuyili, Ribadu, El Rufai, Okonjo-Iweala and others into government and Nigerians witnessed long eluded progress and could have their hope in Nigeria resuscitation during Obasanjo regime. A government came after him, with lack of political will, and took Nigeria like 25 years backward. Imagine a leader that was justifying corruption by saying “Small, small stealing is not corruption.” Even 6 billion dollars is too small to be corruption by the president definition of corruption. Gani would have described such a government worst than that of Obasanjo I believe.

    • Mayo

      We all have a right to prefer one person over another but I really get tired when people tell blatant lies just because they don’t like a person. Can you present just one proof to show that GEJ’s government took Nigeria back 25 years? Do you know what it means to take a country back a few years not to talk of 25 years?

      Secondly, context matters in everything. It is common to say GEJ said stealing is not corruption but go back and look at the full transcript of what he said and you will find out that he was summarizing what a Judge had said (that when somebody misappropriates money, under the law it is known as stealing and there are existing laws to deal with it; you can disagree with that statement but that does not mean he was condoning corruption). And let us even agree that he said that, that does not mean 6 billion dollars is too small to be corruption to him.

      And just to be clear – this is not about pro or anti GEJ. This is simply about – we should stick to the facts when we are talking about people.

      • Bol

        It is not about speculations! Can you remember how many probe panel Jonathan set up on probing corrupt activities of some of his aides? How many report of such probe see the light of the day, from Aviation issues, presidential Limousine fraud,to others? I don’t think Nigerians need any analyst to come to a critical conclusion and judgement about such a government. You are right about not about pro or anti GEJ, that is why we should stop distracting the current regime with comments full of sentiments and emotion so that they can achieve their mission and goals for the betterment of all Nigerians.

        • Mayo

          Actually, you did not respond to the issues in my comment.
          1) You said GEJ took Nigeria back 25 years. I said to provide at least 1 point of reference.
          2) You said GEJ would condone stealing of 6 billion dollars. You have not provided proof of that

          I have not said anything about whether GEJ’s government is corrupt or not. I responded to specific assertions in your original comment and you have not responded to anyone of them. In addition, I did not make any comment for/against BUhari so the issue of ‘distracting the current regime with emotional comments..’ does not arise.

        • REDEEM

          HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT BUHARI EXECUTED WHILE THEIR CASE WAS ON APPEAL INCLUDING WOMEN WERE GUILTY OF THE LAW THAT FOUND THEM WANTING

      • REDEEM

        THAT GUY IS SICK PERIOD–SO U IGNORE HIM–SADLY HE IS AN ITSEKIRI MAN FROM THE SOUTH SOUTH IN KOKO CLOSE TO WARRI

    • redeem

      That same God will judge yr conscience if u have any—At least late Chief Gani saw Jonathan before–he accused Tinubu of forging his certificates——–Only a mental case–will back this monster—————-called Obj————can u point to one single thing that can be traced to Obj—–as an oil Minister for 6 years-as his achievements for the Nation state of Nigeria–u must be a confused Yoruba man–like Obj in search of relevance—

      • King

        There is no need to embark on research before one can know who you are and where you come from. We know where people like you, that has no reservation for insulting a people, tribe and or individuals. It can easily be noticed that you wouldn’t have any respect for your own father, mother, uncles, etc but call them names without respect and causing them. That’s why your comments could never be counted worthy of taking serious.

        • REDEEM

          DID THE kIDS THAT OBJ FATHERED HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR HIM MUMU? PUT ON YOUR THINKING CAP FOR ONCE B4 U POST COMMENTS——-THE DAUGHTER IYABO CALLED HIM NAMES———THE SON ACCUSED HIM OF SLEEPING WITH HIS WIFE–I AM YET TO ACCUSE MY OLD MAN OF HAVING SEX WITH MY WIFE-MAY BE BECAUSE I AM NOT YORUBA–THAT IS WHY–TELL OBJ THAT NIGERIANS ARE SICK AND TIRED OF HIS RANTINGS

  • akyn

    Obasanjo has rubbish Nigerian and God in one brush stroke with the 2 statements below. God used him to enthrone – dumb (Yar’Adua) and dumber (Jonathan) at the same time he accuses us Nigerians of voting for them. What kind of
    imbecile is this gorilla from otta?

    1. ” In the Volume 2 of your book, you wrote extensively about the role God used you to play in enthroning Yar’Adua and
    Jonathan.”

    2. “You are absolutely wrong Now you voted for them. I didn’t just take them and put them there. And they went through a process. Don’t you know that?”

    The bottom line is the gorilla of otta sold us fake goods using the name of God. This is 419 at its best. Did anyone notice that the churches realizing this gullibility of Nigerians when you mention God started proclaiming the name of God in all what they do after the election of the dumb and dumber? The churches learn the 419 tricks from the gorilla of otta. Unfortunately, the
    innocents and the dumb jonathan believed he was God sent.

    • redeem

      Were Balewa and Zik also God sent-If they were then why did Nigeria go to war under them—–I mean the Biafran war———-separation is the only answer——————-given the level of the regional hatred we have for each other

      • akyn

        You and your off springs 500 times shall only dream of separation

        • REDEEM

          U ARE A THIEF THAT IS WHY U DO NOT WANT A DIVORCE

  • burning spear

    Olusegun Agagu was former Minister of Power. And others after him. Why are we still in darkness? Why is it that the government inherited 3,525 mega watts of electricity in 1999 and now we are operating with less than 1,225 mega watts after spending billions of tax payers’ money. The jamboree in Abuja, COJA. We want the facts on COJA. There is a lot of work for Ribadu now that Obasanjo is gone. The best of Ribadu is yet to come. He is a man I trust that would do this job and I have no doubt in my mind that many governors and others in Aso Rock, including the President and his deputy, will be brought to justice.
    Is anybody still in doubt about Obasanjo’s legacies? Look around us? Look at our universities; it is a tale of poverty. Shelves are empty, no books. Laboratories, empty, no equipment for experiment.
    Twenty years ago, UNESCO decreed that not less than 25 per cent of the budget of every country, including Nigeria, should be given to education. But the highest Obasanjo went was 11 per cent. Obasanjo does not care about the education of Nigerian

  • DonCool

    @Premium times, when do we expect the remaining parts of this interview?

  • redeem

    AMAECHI, APC ATM!!!

    “God Bless Rotibi Amaechi, He took Care of 80% of our Campaign funding throughout the election”. – APC leaders at his Abuja Reception party [02/08/2015].

    This is estimated to be about N2trillion of Rivers state tax payers money.
    If Buhari is really serious fighting Corruption, his first suspect is ready for probing. Buhari should submit himself to the securities as he is the major beneficiary of this estimated N2Trillion from Rotibi Amaechi. what a shame

  • Marcus Garvey

    Akin Oyebode, former vice chancellor, University of Ado-Ekiti and Professor of Law at the University of Lagos speaks with SYLVESTER ASOYA on President Olusegun Obasanjo’s tenure

    In a few days, President Olusegun Obasanjo will cease to be Nigeria’s president. What are the prospects of life outside office for him?
    He is not yet out of office. He is still in office and also in power. I agree with you that he has a few more days yet to vacate the position of President

    and commander-in-chief of the armed forces. But the way he has been posturing in the last couple of days, for me suggests some withdrawal symptoms in the sense that it has now dawned on him that power will soon pass him by. And somebody who has been used to dominating his environment, calling the shots and being celebrated and saluted as Baba suddenly becomes impotent. It is not a situation he loves to be in if you know the persona of General Obasanjo. In his interaction with human beings, you will notice that most of his friends have abandoned him or he has abandoned them. So he is not too happy with the prospect of a lonely retirement because he is used to being in the news.
    Now, he is just a former head of state. He had it before in 1979 when he handed over, but he believes that he is the greatest gift of God to Nigeria. Remember he once asked: “How many presidents do you want to make of me?” And he has this Myasthenic complex, he believes that God gave him only one instruction, which is, to rule Nigeria.
    I won’t say to govern. He came like a ruler, an emperor. So, this sudden loss of power is affecting him. Once you’re no longer in power, you will miss the courtesies, the foolery of hangers on, and jesters. Now he is banished to the anonymity of Ota Farm. Although he still wants to be relevant and he has rejoined the association of former leaders. I think I understand his predicament, but he should be rest assured that there is life after retirement and that it could have been worse. So he should look at it with a sense of deja vu. He has nothing to worry about.
    Afterall he said that if given another chance he will do everything the same way he did it which is completely unrepentant. Again, that for me, smacks more of bravado.
    Definitely he is in discomfiture and he is trying to paper over the cracks by giving us the picture of a wholly-together person who has damned the consequences.
    President Olusegun Obasanjo’s tenure will remain an issue for debate in the years ahead but as an academic, how would you rate him?
    It is a mixed bag. He tried to do something about a few things like corruption. I’m saying that in terms of impressing the world that we are doing something about corruption, Obasanjo has moved us a few notches. And we used to be one of the least developed countries despite all our oil fortunes. We have now moved up.

  • Garden-City Boy

    That is Obasanjo, true to type. Yinka Odumaki was spot on when he characterized this old pig as one only out to run down every initiative that does not serve his personal, selfish aggrandizement. It is always “my this”, ‘my that’ and “my everything else”… “me….me….me”. Okonjo-Iweala was good enough to serve in his cabinet. For her to serve another president, it is “Naaaaaaa! Okonjo-Iweala is must be bad; she chops money”….as though some personal possession was yanked off his grip. That reminds one of this clown’s row with Kashamu, who became a “drug baron” the moment they parted ways.
    The grumpy bonobo carries his tantrums close to his chest just as a pack of cards. Each morning, he tosses out a new one realizing that the last one made little or no impression to Nigerians who have learnt to ignore the 85 year-old crybaby. But, each time Tessler, Halliburton or Siemens is mentioned to him, a burst of hot fart jets out forcefully from his shaggy butt-hole.
    All he is doing is play to the gallery and hope we will all forget about his corrupt past and human right abuse of the Odi and Zaki Biam people. He should get his prison briefcase ready for another spell in jail. This time, he does not return “looking like an exhumed corpse”, but like a mummified one. Ever since Jonathan’s ouster, while Former presidents Shagari, Babangida, Abdulsalam, and even brain-dead Buhari, have conducted themselves with dignity, this motor-park tout has been all over the place making a jackass out of himself. We wish him luck in his current endeavor.

  • Omolaja nofiu

    In my opinion, Obj’s public expression on issues may not always be the best, but to deny His patriotism, leadership capacities and accomplishments at various stages appear to be more of sheer mischief and hatred than any other things. Because in spite of continuous efforts by successive governments and/or other of his accusers to use various courts and media noises to lay corruption charges against him, they have not succeeded, locally and internationally.

    However, that does not cancel the fact that Baba Obj should also cautioned himself on his ”old” approach of addressing people on issues. Of course, he is right to condemn evil and evil doers, but certainly NOT as if they are his small boys and girls though. It is just my opinion as a Nigerian, anyway.

  • Lanre

    Obasanjo is one of the greatest problems Nigeria has. Let me keep it short and simple.

  • SICK OBJ

    OBJ once asked: “How many presidents do you want to make of me?” And he has this Myasthenic complex, he believes that God gave him only one instruction, which is, to rule Nigeria.
    I won’t say to govern. He came like a ruler, an emperor. So, this sudden loss of power is affecting him. Once you’re no longer in power, you will miss the courtesies, the foolery of hangers on, and jesters. Now he is banished to the anonymity of Ota Farm. Although he still wants to be relevant and he has rejoined the association of former leaders. I think I understand his predicament, but he should be rest assured that there is life after retirement and that it could have been worse. So he should look at it with a sense of deja vu. He has nothing to worry about.
    Afterall he said that if given another chance he will do everything the same way he did it which is completely unrepentant. Again, that for me, smacks more of bravado.
    Definitely he is in discomfiture and he is trying to paper over the cracks by giving us the picture of a wholly-together person who has damned the consequences.
    President Olusegun Obasanjo’s tenure will remain an issue for debate in the years ahead but as an academic, how would you rate him?
    It is a mixed bag. He tried to do something about a few things like corruption. I’m saying that in terms of impressing the world that we are doing something about corruption, Obasanjo has moved us a few notches. And we used to be one of the least developed countries despite all our oil fortunes. We have now moved up.

  • Ijeuwa

    Obasanjo went into govt a pauper and 8 years later, he’s a multi-billionaire living, like IBB, in a multi-billion hilltop mansion,
    courtesy of Halliburton, transcorp shares, PTDF funds, etc. He was also the oil minister (although he handed over the ministry to Nnamdi Uba), and handed over the funds of Anambra state to Chris Uba and that of Oyo state to Lamidi Adedibu aka amala politics, got Bola Ige and Harry Marshal killed, committed war crimes in Odi and Zakibiam. He was a president who allowed his presidential jet and his privileges in foreign countries to be used for money laundering. When he couldn’t get his
    thud term (on which he spent hundreds of billions of public money while Ribadu actively supported that rape of public treasury), he enthroned a very sick man and another who didn’t know his left from his right as president and vice president respectively. He also gave Nigeria a do or die election as a parting gift.

    Obasanjo overrates himself. In a serious country, he wouldn’t even be allowed to run a ministry. But in Nigeria, people like that are celebrated instead. What a tragedy!

  • MARCUS GARVEY

    The Obasanjo regime will go down in history as the most corrupt regime in the history of this country in the sense that no regime ever made so much money as was made under Obasanjo’s regime. It got to a point that the price of one barrel of crude oil was fetching $70 and Nigeria at that time was producing 3,150,000 (three million, one hundred and fifty thousand) barrels per day. As we talk, the Federal Government is making more than N200,000,000 (two hundred million dollars) everyday, including Sunday. The Price of crude oil later went up to 147 dollars per barrel. Show us what Obasanjo did with the money’? The more money the Obasanjo regime made the poorer the Nigerian people became. And the more money the Obasanjo regime made, the richer a few people became, including Mr. President himself. What a thief

    • HonsylGlobal.COM

      When I read about the criticisms of OBJ by some Nigerians, I ponder as to who could then be viewed as a Nigerian hero.It is a shame that some Nigerians would rather allow themselves to be deceived by the envelope per story journalists despite the glaring and obvious achievements of OBJ. These set of people play chess with our brain just like they did with the late Awolowo of blessed memory, only to eulogize him after death.
      OBJ came in 1999 when Nigeria was a pariah state after the official murder of Saro Wiwa and IBB and the Military needed someone, who based on his international connections, could breath life back into the Nation.
      OBJ met USD$3.5billion in our National reserves but increased it to USD$43billion plus another USD25billion in Excess Crude Account after paying all our foreign debts in excess of USD30billion. OBJ brought in GSM thereby making telephone available for the poor and kick-started the ICT revolution.OBJ tackled corruption with EFCC and ICPC and gave Nigeria the global acceptance that was previously lacking through his numerous foreign travels. Fuel availability was without subsidy fraud, the money and Capital market blossomed, employment tripled.OBJ dealt with internal insurrection like the Sharia riots and other misdemeanor. OBJ built most of the Power stations like Olorunsogo, Omotosho, Geregu and many others that GEJ concentrated in relaunching thereby making the USD16billion power scam a political joke, given the fact that Dr Iweala confirmed that no such payment was made.OBJ started the Cassava to bread initiative as well as the Nomadic education policies which Jonathan white washed into Almajiri schools. The train rehabilitation policy commenced under the OBJ administration as very many rail tracks were built by the Chinese and the Indians.OBJ did so much for this nation despite the fact that crude oil prices averaged lower than USD40.00 per barrel throughout his stay. OBJ was not and never a good family man.OBJ failed sorely in advertising his administration’s successes. This will hunt him to the grave.

  • HonsylGlobal.COM

    When I read about the criticisms of OBJ by some Nigerians, I ponder as to who could then be viewed as a Nigerian hero.It is a shame that some Nigerians would rather allow themselves to be deceived by the envelope per story journalists despite the glaring and obvious achievements of OBJ. These set of people play chess with our brain just like they did with the late Awolowo of blessed memory, only to eulogize him after death.
    OBJ came in 1999 when Nigeria was a pariah state after the official murder of Saro Wiwa and IBB and the Military needed someone, who based on his international connections, could breath life back into the Nation.
    OBJ met USD3.5billion in our National reserves but increased it to USD43billion plus another USD25billion in Excess Crude Account after paying all our foreign debts in excess of USD30billion. OBJ brought in GSM thereby making telephone available for the poor and kick-started the ICT revolution.OBJ tackled corruption with EFCC and ICPC and gave Nigeria the global acceptance that was previously lacking through his numerous foreign travels. Fuel availability was without subsidy fraud, the money and Capital market blossomed, employment tripled.OBJ dealt with internal insurrection like the Sharia riots and other misdemeanor. OBJ built most of the Power stations like Olorunsogo, Omotosho, Geregu and many others that GEJ concentrated in relaunching thereby making the USD16billion power scam a political joke, given the fact that Dr Iweala confirmed that no such payment was made.OBJ started the Cassava to bread initiative as well as the Nomadic education policies which Jonathan white washed into Almajiri schools. The train rehabilitation policy commenced under the OBJ administration as very many rail tracks were built by the Chinese and the Indians.OBJ did so much for this nation despite the fact that crude oil prices averaged lower than USD40.00 per barrel throughout his stay. OBJ was not and never a good family man.OBJ failed sorely in advertising his administration’s successes. This will hunt him to the grave.

    • burning spear

      U are a bloody thief like Obj–often attempting to reap where u do not sow—That is why he goes about telling all who care to listen to his lies that he installed Jonathan——————–when the person he had in mind was Odili after he had stolen the man’s money——–with the aid of ribadu————-a patholigical lair if there is one–when he came oil was selling at 75 dollars per barrel–shortly after that the price of crude oil went up to 145 dollars per barrel-because of the war in Iraq——-meanwhile Nigeria was pumping more than 3 million barrels of oil per day–work out the maths your self—–So why would he not save money—but look at the mess he made of the country–stealing all over the place–and using ribadu to cover his evil tracks—

      • HonsylGlobal.COM

        Mr Burning Spear thanks for coming out of your hole.Your response confirms that your likes are nothing but a spoiler because you are abreast of the facts but would rather twist it with a view to justifying the looting, depletion and plunder of our national resources. Must you rub dirt on OBJ.
        Thanks for accepting that OBJ left a lot of reserves which was looted by GEJ. The operating term here is average because crude Oil prices never rose beyond USD$68 throughout the administration of OBJ-Visit Google.

        OBJ never sold more than 2.2million barrels per day and you should understand that it came down due to the Niger delta militancy.So your 3million barrels is a lie because it came down to as low as 700,000 barrels per day.
        What mess did OBJ leave Nigeria after paying all debts with a distant positive bank balance in excess of USD$62billion along with the achievements already highlighted.
        On installing Jonathan, when Yaradua was ill and he was hidden in Saudi Arabia, Obj used his US contacts to access Yaradua in Saudi. On his return he gave a speech that led to the doctrine of necessity.

        Chief Clark already acknowledged that it was OBJ that personally chose GEJ as Vice President even when the latter wanted to continue as a Governorship candidate in Bayelsa.

        Below is the monthly crude oil prices from January 1999 to May 2007 when OBJ left.

        19998.578.6010.7612.8213.9214.3916.1217.5820.0319.7121.3522.55 200023.5325.4826.1923.2025.5827.6226.8127.9129.7229.6530.3624.46 200124.6425.2722.9823.3924.0623.4322.8223.0822.3718.7316.4015.54 200215.8916.9320.2822.5223.5122.5923.5124.7626.0825.2923.3825.29 200328.4231.8530.1025.4524.9526.8427.5227.9425.2326.5327.2128.53 200430.3531.2132.8633.2035.7334.5336.5440.1040.5646.1442.8538.22 200540.1842.1947.5647.2644.0349.8353.3558.9059.6456.9953.2053.24 200657.8555.6955.6462.5264.4064.6567.7167.2159.3753.2652.4255.03 200749.3252.9454.9558.2058.90

  • chim

    By the is the lady sitting beside obansanjo the interviewer? Is she the person he’ s whose laps he is slapping vigorously?

    • REDEEM

      she is a staff of the BBC——————–The Obasanjo regime will go down in history as the most corrupt regime in the history of this country in the sense that no regime ever made so much money as was made under Obasanjo’s regime. It got to a point that the price of one barrel of crude oil was fetching $70 and Nigeria at that time was producing 3,150,000 (three million, one hundred and fifty thousand) barrels per day. As we talk, the Federal Government is making more than N200,000,000 (two hundred million dollars) everyday, including Sunday. The Price of crude oil later went up to 147 dollars per barrel. Show us what Obasanjo did with the money’? The more money the Obasanjo regime made the poorer the Nigerian people became. And the more money the Obasanjo regime made, the richer a few people became, including Mr. President himself. What a thief

    • Musanga

      Zeinab Badawi is a Sudanese-British television and radio
      journalist. She was the first presenter of the ITV Morning News, and
      co-presented Channel 4 News with Jon Snow, before joining BBC News. She reports for BBC.

  • TRUTH MASTER

    OBJ is a reporter’s nightmare! Before you interview him, steel yourself well, or he will fluster and intimidate you. Those PT guys are lucky to have escaped with mere slaps on their thighs (Ha! Hope there was no woman among them o). They should ask others who have interviewed him in the past about their experience, including Stephen Sackur (BBC Hardtalk Presenter) and a former NAN correspondent in New York.

  • Olamide

    OBJ has always been an outspoken man and he speaks without mincing words. We all know that Jonathan’s government was the most corruption since inception of democracy. It is safe to say that Okonjo Iweala compromised during Jonathan’s regime.

  • George

    It is really difficult to work with a corrupt leader for four years and still remain clean. You cannot work for Johnathan for that length of time without resigning and remain clean. l think he is the most corrupt leader we have had so far. lf you don’t believe this, then wait until events fully develop.

    • Fairgame

      I see you speak of yourself. If anyone has any evidence that Dr OkonjoIweala corruptly enriched herself then stop talking and present the evidence. Until then just shut up.

  • Uzoma

    I wonder why the press keep giving Obj a free platform to destroy anyone he cares to destroy and never as much as asking him the tough questions with follow-ups. If he wasn’t corrupt, how did he become the very rich man that we all recognize him to be today? At the very least, PT could have asked him to explain how he made his money.

    • Pause

      because he gave BROWN ENVELOPES, paid by your stolen national funds.

  • MushinSpeaks

    Okonjo Oni wahala squandered our resources with GEJ…Cruise is they must return the looted funds. CHANGE is here.

  • vincentumenyiora

    A despicable statement from an ex-Head of State never heard this kind of disposition from a principled Head of State, folks! Why not Buhari orders that Obasanjo’s administration come under harmer – should be probed so that Nigeria will know who has done what, as a matter of fact? As it stands now it appears he is given license/ cover to berate people as he wishes going by that lack of respect and his vindictive disposition! Earlier Prof. Wole Soyinka and Yabo his daughter had warned us to beware of his pranks and Chief E. Clark also reminded us about his character! I’ll let EFCC or ICPC probe his administration to be on record vis-a-vis the ‘Energy power contracts’ entered into regardless of Due Process and the NASS was about to tell us what really transpired in the negociations – we are not toled why the result of the enquiry is not published!! Behold he went and got all that Sani Abacha looted from Nigeria – Obasanjo’s administration should be probed having served as a civilian! Besides, under the FoI Bill Okonjo Iweala and Jonathan can easily fire back at him if they have things to say about him constituting of public interest – not personal though, folks! Let us hear/ read something of interest from their own quaters please! Oma se’o! We may well be moving into a dangerous precedent if Heads of State can devolve into this kind of gutter interviews in Nigeria! I said already let the probing net be spread to encompass 1999 to date, in fact, that way Nigerians will know; Who has done who in the confusion!

    • paul udedibia

      no let it be from 1983 the time of buhari he connot pretend to be mr integrity whilst a lot happen under his wash

  • Garba Kano

    This Okonjo Iweala woman and her several Igbo Nyamiri tribesmen tactically fixed in various strategic fiscal finance establishments are a disaster to the Nigerian economy and it’s docile citizens. See DMO, RMAFC , Budget Office, Central Bank, Economic Advisor to the then President, National Planning Commission and many more were all headed one way or the other by her cotravelers then how would have you expected objectivity or checks and balances within the context of our fiscal system with one ” dominant family” at the helm of affairs? Same arrangement prevailed in all other financial institutions such as banks whose MD/ CEO’s mainly come from the same zone with this quack economist Okonjo Iweala . Are other Nigerians not brilliant enough to handle our fiscal / finance matters only people of Igbo extraction? Haba? Remember absolute power and absolute control corrupt absolutely. Hence the mess we find ourselves in today. See how Nigeria was forced by this Worldbank/ IMF agent Okonjo Iweala to have swallowed a whooping $18 billion external loan and $42 billon domestic loan in just 4 years ! With this regrettable misadventure Okonjo Iweala has eternally mortgaged the Nigerian peoples lives with all the immediate and future expensive and painful consequences. More worrisome is looking at the portfolio of these loans mostly on service matters much less is credited to the real productive sector of the economy. I just pity PMB who will have to bear the burden of steering this already sinking ship and again it is during his tenure the symptoms of these macroenomic self imposed ailments will begin to manifest. On last note this Okonjo woman considering the way she is being widely and ignorantly touted as a quintessential economist, is not even one. She only read FINE ART as her first degree and later blended it with some questionable and debatable phd in some concussion called ” regional economics”. Any wonder why we are in this mess?. To digress a little, it was said that as economics guru she used her expertise to source the $18 billion debt ” forgiveness ” for which we parted with a whooping $12 billion! Which country would have ever agreed to pay this ( lump sum) in CASH “one go” ? Not even the USA! Do you know of this $12 billion Okonjo’s private firm took 1% consultancy charges? Do you know how much is 1% of $12 billion is? And again our debt burden now suddenly rose from $18billion to unprecedented $60 billion under the watchful eyes of Okonjo !!!!! So what are your PDP’s achievements in those 16 years?May God Almighty bail PMB out, amen. Any wonder she unilaterily authorized the spending of $2 billion dollars from the ECA ? Finally, dollar now exchanges at $1 to N250 from N114 to $1 under Yaraduwa’s regime getting to well over 100% rise!!! This indeed is the prize of appointing a semi illiterate Okonjo Iweala as Finance Minister. So even if it will take PMB 2 years to source for competent and credible people as ministers, let it be.

    • emmaudensi147

      Garba u’ve spoken well & stated ur facts, but I still wonder why joining the Igbos wit all these, the igbo nation is made up of 5 states only, Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu & Imo, so who amongst these people are from there? From the ex president, PDP national chairmen the past & present chairmen of board of trustees, none, so PDP is not synonymous wit the Igbos, so anyone or every one is free to contest election from any party he/she so deemed fit. So governors, senators, reps members etc won elections in the north under PDP while some won elections in the east under APC. The 16 years of PDP rule was 8 years by Obasanjo a Yoruba, 2 years by Yar’dua a northerner, & 6 years by Jonathan a south south ( Bayelsa). Don’t hate!!

  • Gwongworo

    AFTER OSHIOMOLE da MONKEY’s Rantings it is now the turn of OTA SENIOR BABOON….

    The fact that Dr. NOI came to serve her country and understood that ANIMALS in HUMAN SKIN are part of govt. does not mean she does not know her QUALITY. No sane person compares even a carpenter who earns his living by hard work with a Robber who makes a living by robbing people.

    Thank goodness Dr. NOI ignored the animal for what IT is. Thank goodness that Dr. NOI can’t be controlled by a MONKEY & BABOON. Thank GOODNESS THAT GEJ never got controlled by A BABOON.